Letter to the Editor

Sunday, November 7, 2010 at 8:23pm

I hate it that all the jobs have moved to Cool Springs.

How were all the jobs ever allowed to move out of Nashville and move to Cool Springs? What kind of city planning is that. I think it was no city planning at all. Now instead of one centralized Nashville with living and jobs, one must drive all the way out to Cool Springs every day to get to work. And it’s a long drive from Nashville. And it takes a lot of time, uses a lot of gas, and puts a lot of miles on our cars.

It started with the mall, which is fine, but then office buildings started cropping up around the mall, and jobs started slowly moving to Cool Springs. Then it became a flood of jobs moving to Cool Springs with it now being almost impossible to get a job that is not located in Cool Springs. Nashville city planners should have put a stop to this. I feel like I don’t even live in Nashville anymore. I’ve had to move to the Brentwood area to be close to work, and I spend every day I’m at work in Cool Springs. I never even go to Nashville anymore.

All the jobs moving to Cool Springs is creating a twin city like situation. Soon we will be called Franklin-Nashville, just like Minneapolis-St. Paul, or Dallas-Ft. Worth. I love all the old charm of Nashville, and I used to enjoy seeing the things that have been there forever as I drove around town. Cool Springs is so sterile and boring. Somehow Cool Springs reminds me of Las Vegas, with all the buildings being so new and modern and fake.

What about MetroCenter? What about downtown Nashville? What about West End Avenue and the fairgrounds area? Nashville city planners could have led jobs to any of those areas. But no, they didn’t, and now we have Cool Springs, and I can’t buy one of the great new midtown Nashville condos because I absolutely don’t want to drive that far every day to Cool Springs to get to work.

Does anybody else feel this way? Let’s get all the jobs moved back to Nashville and have all those Cool Springs five-story office cube buildings sitting vacant. They could convert them into chicken coops for the farmers that used to farm on that land to use again.

Josh O’Connor

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Filed under: City Voices

77 Comments on this post:

By: dargent7 on 11/8/10 at 6:25

Don't really understand this LTE.
Since when is two cities merging with businesses and homes, considered a bad thing?
Cool Springs is 18 miles from my home.
Downtown Nashville is 4.5 miles the other way.
In today's world, that's nothing as far as distance.

By: Loner on 11/8/10 at 6:56

Good morning, Nashville!

Josh O'Connor is whining...in public. It's not a pretty sight.

Josh, the world does not revolve around you; grow up. This is a whole lot of bitching about relatively trivial stuff - stuff that is beyond anyone's control, for the most part.

Josh, millions of Americans are out of work and are facing foreclosures, repos and even homelessness. Your bitching about having to drive a few miles to get to work is not going to elicit a lot of sympathy these days.

Be thankful that you have a job, a car and a place to call home....it could be a lot worse, my friend.

By: house_of_pain on 11/8/10 at 7:01

Okay, everybody here that works in Cool Springs, raise your hand.
Really.

By: dargent7 on 11/8/10 at 7:11

"...turn the vacant buildings into chicken coops..."
Sounds like a plan.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 11/8/10 at 7:48

house, not i.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 11/8/10 at 7:56

Josh, you could boycott by refusing to live there and move back to Nashville.

By: dargent7 on 11/8/10 at 8:28

House: How 'bout them Lions? You know, there's karma; good karma and bad karma.
Detroit has a lock on "bad karma".

By: house_of_pain on 11/8/10 at 8:39

I watched that game, d7. Your boys had 'em, but they let 'em off the hook.

By: govskeptic on 11/8/10 at 8:44

While not having a concentration of 100 restaurants to choose
from as Cool Springs does, Nashville has Toosties and Randy's
down in Hillsboro Village, and least I forget a soon to be gazillion
dollar Convention Center on the way. Where's the beef?

By: bfra on 11/8/10 at 8:50

Cool Springs is the very last place I go to shop. However, I don't resent it or wish it wasn't there, so all those people would be out of work. Sad choice of a letter!

By: bfra on 11/8/10 at 8:52

My pleasure was watching the Eagles beat the Colts!

By: conservarage on 11/8/10 at 8:52

"How were all the jobs ever allowed to move out of Nashville and move to Cool Springs?"

ever "allowed"? businesses don't have to ask permission. this isn't a high school bathroom break.

By: Funditto on 11/8/10 at 8:55

Josh - it's all about taxes and education. Brentwood (in Davidson County) could have had Cool Springs Mall but refused. Thus it is now in Franklin and paying cheaper taxes in Williamson County. Offices are located there because frankly, Williamson County schools are far better than Davidson County Schools. Why? Because there are fewer poor people and minorities.

Personally, I'd never live there. The houses are poorly built, the traffic is a nightmare and it's full of Republicans!

By: slacker on 11/8/10 at 8:59

Josh, Cool Springs exists because of better schools, and lower taxes.
And to get away from the riff-raff like me.

By: bfra on 11/8/10 at 9:00

Fun - I know a lot of people that wasn't Repubs until they moved to Williamson Co., must be something in the water.

By: bfra on 11/8/10 at 9:07

Nemo - Posters are getting concerned about you. We need a Good Morning sunrise!

By: slacker on 11/8/10 at 9:14

Funditto, sorry didn't see your post.

By: slacker on 11/8/10 at 9:15

bfra, I believe nemo mentioned, that he was going to have knee surgery.

By: slacker on 11/8/10 at 9:17

bfra, maybe Josh will send you a Good Morning sunrise from Cool Springs.

By: house_of_pain on 11/8/10 at 9:18

Nemo is having his kneecaps removed, which will give him a huge advantage during the casting of "Human Centipede 2".

By: bfra on 11/8/10 at 9:21

slacker - Josh seems too deep in self-pity for a sunrise, much less a Good Morning one. Nemo did mention that, but he should still be able to post. Just saying!

By: slacker on 11/8/10 at 9:31

pain, no kneecaps means nemo will be significantly shorter. Perhaps he's getting a Prius hybrid.

By: BenDover on 11/8/10 at 9:35

Good to hear that there's a reason for Nemo being out. Hope he gets back soon.

By: Funditto on 11/8/10 at 9:35

Cool Springs wouldn't be Cool Springs without Titans wives and their McMansions, Hummers and shopping habits.

By: dargent7 on 11/8/10 at 9:48

If "yogi" can post without a whole brain (nothing personal), and "chief" can post while in Baghdad chasing the enemy, and "dooley" can post after death, "Nemo" better get to a keyboard, quickly.

By: BenDover on 11/8/10 at 10:01

My property taxes on my house in the Nippers corner area have gone from about $1200 a year when I bought it to about $2600 a year for what I pay now due to re-assessment and additional mil rates over the last 10 years. The property value has gone up by < 20%. The 'affordable housing' initiative has not helped any either because it, along with increased taxes diminishes, the value of my biggest asset with buyers who can go 5 miles down the interestate to competing properties Williamson instead. The quality of schools has gone down in Metro as well. Wealth flight to the bedroom comunities is a large part of the cause. I don't know that it's a cycle we can break. We had an explosion of growth in the early 2000's and the burden of all of the additional infrastructure (water, police, schools, roads) was shared out over all the property owners bringing our once advantageous lower tax rate amounts up in line with what Brentwood and Williamson were paying. I suggested at the time impact fees to better index the greater cost of the growth to the new homes and builders who were doing the growing; but that didn't fly.

I think my best bet for me now is to sell in Davidson and buy in Williamson while they are on the bottom side of the housing bubble that we never really saw in south Davidson because our property values didn't sky-rocket with everyone else's (for reasons mentioned). Obviously this logical move on my part will further contribute to the problem because the thousands of dollars I spend a year at Jonny's and Bailey's, Krogers, Publics, et al... will likely move down to the Franklin / Cool Springs area.

At least we got rid of Serpas and the down-town nightlife may finally recover.

By: slacker on 11/8/10 at 10:18

Ben, have you checked out Puckett's yet?

By: BenDover on 11/8/10 at 10:22

I have not. I saw they were open when I walked by on my way to vote the other day. I went into the down-town HG Hill store for the first time that day too. Reminded me of a lot of the down-town markets like in Chicago.

Puckett's is a country store format, right?

By: slacker on 11/8/10 at 10:39

Ben, I'm assuming its will be similar to the locations in Leipers Fork & Franklin. Folksy, with a small grocery, restaurant & entertainment. Good place for breakfast.

By: BenDover on 11/8/10 at 11:00

I'll definitly check it out because down-town is really lacking in good breakfast options on the weekend.

By: brrrrk on 11/8/10 at 11:59

While I'll agree that the LTE does have an aspect of whining to it, there's also a valid point at it's base. We do not do good city planning in this country. Rather than put the effort into renovating areas, we choose to abandon them thus creating areas of urban blight that are unproductive and costly. As a result, we eat up precious farmland and other areas that will never be like they were before, regardless of how much money and effort are put into returning them to their previous conditions.

By: brrrrk on 11/8/10 at 12:05

While I'll agree that the LTE does have an aspect of whining to it, there's also a valid point at it's base. We do not do good city planning in this country. Rather than put the effort into renovating areas, we choose to abandon them thus creating areas of urban blight that are unproductive and costly. As a result, we eat up precious farmland and other areas that will never be like they were before, regardless of how much money and effort are put into returning them to their previous conditions.

By: brrrrk on 11/8/10 at 12:11

While I'll agree that the LTE does have an aspect of whining to it, there's also a valid point at it's base. We do not do good city planning in this country. Rather than put the effort into renovating areas, we choose to abandon them thus creating areas of urban blight that are unproductive and costly. As a result, we eat up precious farmland and other areas that will never be like they were before, regardless of how much money and effort are put into returning them to their previous conditions.

By: dargent7 on 11/8/10 at 12:43

brrrrk: Note to self. Posting 3x doesn't make your point more relevant.

By: brrrrk on 11/8/10 at 12:44

While I'll agree that the LTE does have an aspect of whining to it, there's also a valid point at it's base. We do not do good city planning in this country. Rather than put the effort into renovating areas, we choose to abandon them thus creating areas of urban blight that are unproductive and costly. As a result, we eat up precious farmland and other areas that will never be like they were before, regardless of how much money and effort are put into returning them to their previous conditions.

By: brrrrk on 11/8/10 at 12:46

dargent7 said

"brrrrk: Note to self. Posting 3x doesn't make your point more relevant."

Sorry folks.... didn't mean to do the multiple posts.... the site kept timing out on me when I was attempting to post.....

Sorry folks.... didn't mean to do the multiple posts.... the site kept timing out on me when I was attempting to post.....

Sorry folks.... didn't mean to do the multiple posts.... the site kept timing out on me when I was attempting to post.....

Sorry folks.... didn't mean to do the multiple posts.... the site kept timing out on me when I was attempting to post.....

:-)

By: house_of_pain on 11/8/10 at 1:12

Some get pushed to oulying areas because Metro allows houses to be torn down & replaced with (ugh) apartments. Not everybody wants to live right on top of their neighbors.

By: JeffF on 11/8/10 at 1:18

Nashville, particularly downtown, is guilty of acting like a tourist attraction rather than employment center. The last attempt to create an employment destination similar to what most companies want now, it was met with NIMBYS from a few miles North and others who wanted to know why these companies could be compelled to locate in the core.

The LTE writer no doubt was probably one of the people who fought off the Bells Bend development.

There are two sets of planners in this town, the political/tourism ones and the ones who know how to build a city (like the ones who came up with the Plan of Nashville). Right now, this mayor listens just to the tourism-oriented planners.

By: JeffF on 11/8/10 at 1:29

I also think that it is oddly funny that our leaders have chosen to emulate with their projects, the projects from other sprawling cities instead of what our immediate neighbors are doing to beat us.

When it is all said and done, Nashville will be holding all the sticks to punish people and employers who are no longer here (the Philadelphia and Detroit way of doing things) and our suburban neighbors will be holding all the carrots along with the employers, people, and money. But that sure is a fine convention center and central bus stop we have to be proud of.

The Landport will save us all!

By: Kosh III on 11/8/10 at 1:42

"The LTE writer no doubt was probably one of the people who fought off the Bells Bend development. "

You mean Maytown which would have been mostly underwater May 2? Now that's real smart corporate planning. (sarcasm)

By: BenDover on 11/8/10 at 1:57

Another part of the problem is tax policy that discourages companies to take gains and give dividends instead of developing book assets on 10 or 15 year capitalizaiton schedules. If they churn their profits into another unnecessary Kroger or Walgreens just a bit further out toward the country then that cuts off the people on the outskirts and draws people out to the new stores from within. What happens is concentric circles of blasted out shopping centers and underutilized retail space simply because companies are encouraged to bury profits in unnecessary new investment for tax reasons. Once the inner-businesses move out; so too, does the housing market because they find themselves in the middle of ghost-towns spotted with pawn-shops, used car dealerships and check-cashing joints. The vacuum of the wealth flight is filled with rentals, lower home values and fewer jobs resulting in a higher crime rates and an increased concentration of lower income families who didn't have the ability or foresight to move. The effect of this on schools and social programs is well documented... so we find ourselves where we are now.

By: budlight on 11/8/10 at 2:07

Josh, the jobs or rather the owners of the companies providing the jobs were ALLOWED to move to Cool Springs because they live in America. If you want the gov'ment to DICTATE where the companies can move, then you move to China, Russia, Cuba, Argentina, etc. You know, where they don't have a free market society and freedom of choice.

In the meantime, move your house, or change jobs.

By: BenDover on 11/8/10 at 2:08

Part of the answer is what I suggested earlier... impact fees on new development. That way your infrastructure costs are not overwhelmed by unnecessary growth.

By: bfra on 11/8/10 at 2:14

Bud - Didn't you read the article? He moved to Brentwood & works in Cool Springs

By: brrrrk on 11/8/10 at 2:21

BenDover said

"Part of the answer is what I suggested earlier... impact fees on new development. That way your infrastructure costs are not overwhelmed by unnecessary growth."

Fees and taxes have little to do with it. My boss lives in Brentwood, and he's told me time and time again that there are tons of restrictions on how developments can be laid out there.... especially when it comes to lot size. The fact is that without restrictions, it's just plain cheaper to throw up a new house than it is to renovate an older area of the city.

By: Archit on 11/8/10 at 2:28

Schools Schools schools. Look at the article in this issue about how horrific Nashville schools are. If you have kids you either have to have money for private schools or move to williamson county. Anything else is a risk to your children. Josh may be whinning but in a world where sustainability is becoming increasingly important we are building a city in Franklin that is not sustainable beyond 30 years. Builders are literally building garbage. The new house of today will be teardowns in 30 years destined for the land fill. 30 years ago Portalnd put a limit to it and now they have an exciting vibrant city. The time to start being smart isnow.

By: brrrrk on 11/8/10 at 2:41

Archit,

There are an increasing number of cities (not all big) that are beginning to understand that unregulated building that creates sprawl is detrimental to the long term health of the city. If you look at the history of the development of cities in this country, the suburbs used to be where the poor lived because that's where the majority of nasty industries were located. No rich person would dare live on the outskirts of a city....

By: dargent7 on 11/8/10 at 2:48

brrrrk: Good point. 3x posting is redundant, but the 4th post is the charm. Keep up with the good work.

By: gdiafante on 11/8/10 at 2:58

Is Josh 5 years old?

By: Kosh III on 11/8/10 at 3:22

Archit, you have it backwards. The schools are bad because of the white flight of the past 40 years. Had folks not been terrified to be around someone different and kept their kids in public schools instead of lilywhite christian academies, it would be a different story.