Letter to the Editor

Wednesday, December 29, 2010 at 12:04am

A number of years ago, before the roundabout on Wilson Pike and City Center Boulevard in Brentwood was to be constructed, I sat across from the city manager of Brentwood and commented that this roundabout would certainly congest traffic on an avenue that already is congested. His comment was “Good. We want to slow down traffic.”

Roundabouts are simply seen as a means of restricting traffic flow in today’ city planning schemes. They are prettier than traffic signals and intersections and are currently in favor by planners.

Like some of you, [constructing a roundabout with art in SoBro] seems insane — and contrary to what we drivers would like to see. But roundabouts are popular again just like they were some 50 years ago. And just like the designing of the past, roundabouts will be seen as “stupid” in years to come.

Understand that I’m not arguing the beauty, uniqueness, green-ness, etc., of a traffic circle. It just doesn’t make any rational sense for the driving public.

Posted by "742180"

Filed under: City Voices
Tagged: roundabout | SoBro

117 Comments on this post:

By: bnakat on 12/29/10 at 1:45

Off topic--@ Mr. Paul Wade: For several months I have read your comments on various topics. Your opinions/views are likely rooted in long held convictions. You were born in an early year of the Great Depression, so you lived through some very difficult times. Experience can be a cruel teacher, but also an effective one. It is easy to understand why you are deeply concerned about the current decline in our nation. The country you served while in the Navy is no longer recognizable. Some of the changes have been favorable; many have been destructive.

You have chosen to regularly post on a site where most of the other posters are progressives. Some of them are well educated, at least in certain disciplines, but their world views are fatally flawed. Bathing in their feigned intellectual superiority, they look at you with disdain, and fail to grasp your commonsense reasoning. It is easier to brand you as a troll than to engage in meaningful discussions. The loss is theirs.

A few do appreciate your insights/perceptions, and share your concerns. So drag up a chair, and continue to provide us with the benefit of your years.

By: bfra on 12/29/10 at 2:32

bnakat - When someone offers an "opinion", with NO facts to back it up. Then facts proving it is an untruth are posted, but the poster keeps repeatedly posting same "opinion", over & over, no matter what the topic, what do you call that?

There are probably posters that have lived thru times, just as hard, and I have not seen anyone feigning intellectual superiority (except maybe one). So, maybe your admiration is a little unfounded.

By: dargent7 on 12/29/10 at 5:46

Isn't this topic deja' vu all over again?
In Amish country, with horse & buggy, the roundabout is a brilliant idea.
In major cities, or little cities like Nashville, with people always in a hurry, they are dangerous.
Add in the basic rudeness exhibited by even the clergy when driving, it's an accident waiting to happen.
And who's this Paul Wade fellow bnanak is enamored with?

By: Loner on 12/29/10 at 5:50

Good morning, Nashville!

Enough of the silly SoBro fiasco....it's a stupid idea all the way around...and around...and around. The deal is done, you are getting your roadway anachronism and it's gaudy, expensive and bizarre "artwork", whether you like it or not. People in high places are redistributing your wealth in the manner that they see fit....common sense be damned.

By: Loner on 12/29/10 at 6:07

If Bnakat is talking about Yogi, he should realize that Yogi's near-obsession with President Obama's legitimacy, vis-a-vis his birth certificate, has detracted from his credibility and gravitas. I respect Yogi and his views, but the "birther" rhetoric is not helping his case. If I am proven wrong on the "birther" issue, I'll issue an online apology. I f Obama was not legit, his enemies would have proven their case by now, IMO.

By: Loner on 12/29/10 at 6:12

The debate on the SoBro traffic circle and its piece of art should have taken place long ago, not now.......you folks snoozed......they win, you lose. The special interests have once again triumphed over the public interest.

Enjoy your expensive, new, road rage machine!

By: Captain Nemo on 12/29/10 at 6:22

Good morning

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/70/227056673_5f09d94829.jpg

By: Captain Nemo on 12/29/10 at 6:22

bnakat must come from the same deadwood as yogi, (homo’nuticus). It always has the same a snooty opinion of anyone not of the fringe right world of wackos. It would not surprise me that yogi’s half brain is not in the head of bnakat.

By: dargent7 on 12/29/10 at 6:24

So, "yogi's" real name is Paul Wade?
I love when people are outted.
Personally, I never much enjoyed the closet.

By: Captain Nemo on 12/29/10 at 6:34

He outted himself weeks ago d7. He lives in Gordonsville, TN. a suburb of Carthage, TN. At the Hess station he is known as The Village Idiot.

By: Captain Nemo on 12/29/10 at 6:37

Hello Loner. You are correct about the debate. Some of the citizens of Nashville are always behind the curve. Plans such as this have been on the book as far back as Nashville’s Agenda was circulated back in the early 90’s.

BTW I like to drive the roundabout. It helps keep up my driving skills. The only thing I don’t like about the art in the middle is that there is no place to look at it.

By: Captain Nemo on 12/29/10 at 6:47

d7-

Here is a picture of him all wadded into a ball, so engrossed in himself that the rest of the world means nothing to him.

http://www.iptmiami.com/i/xinha_images/YogiMan.jpg

By: Captain Nemo on 12/29/10 at 7:01

dargent-

If you have the time or the inclination to do so, you need to look at yogi 4:22 post from yesterday on.

By: gdiafante on 12/29/10 at 7:15

Just an observation, but what's up with the obsession for yogi? Part of the problem is that we (the country) give too much credence to those on the fringe. We know his agenda, constantly rehashing the same old issues isn't doing anything but getting his insane views more notice.

Enough already.

As far as the roundabout...don't really care. The one by music row hasn't caused the apocalypse, I doubt this one will either.

By: serr8d on 12/29/10 at 7:20

Same Nemotard as always I see, he's still dumber than a bag of hammers. Some things never change; one cannot force an extra ounce of intelligence into an already-cast brick.

Seems like yogi is a Good Man. Certainly we need to hear more from people of his generation, because, as the departing Governor of Pennsylvania so helpfully pointed out t'other day, we are a nation of wussies. I'd add to that the set of people that comprise 'wussies' is compounded of and contains all of the far-Left Democrats, the dirty socialists who've taken over and ruined the once-proud Democrat party. I'll bet yogi was once a Democrat, as was I.

I left a comment on Bob Rich's column yesterday at the NYT that was actually published, reproduced here for yogi...
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I read these comments wherein people express angry hatreds for the 'rich', a sentiment obviously shared by many of the new-Left Democrats. There's no disapproval expressed for these sentiments from Democrat 'leaders'; instead, they exploit these basest of human emotions, greed and envy, to advance their political agendas. Hatred, greed and envy are not sentiments that will drive an agenda that will turn this Republic around.

We were not, nor have we ever been, a Nation that embraces the political agenda now endorsed by the Left. We are (were) a nation of strong character that was influenced by ruthlessness when necessary. We scrabbled our way out in front and on top not by being soft and gentle at home, but by being hard and competitive. We've lost much of our edge, our 'American Spirit'.

Remember, we came out of the Great Depression only because we became embroiled in a world war, a war that put almost every American to work. We were all aligned politically behind a threat. There is no way that'll ever happen again.

At risk of howls of mirth from the 'enlightened' Democrats who are also mostly atheists, we've turned our back on God; we've become a strikingly secular nation that no longer needs help from some sky spirit who doesn't exist except in the fevered mind of Conservatives. He's never done anything for us, ever, obviously; why should we allow our thoughts to stray to such imaginary foolhardiness?

Why, indeed? Look around you. This Republic is going to fail, and will be reduced to smoldering rubble, maybe in our lifetimes.

We should never have turned away from the paths of strength and American Spirit and away from our belief in God, and embraced the weaknesses that will likely result in our downfall.

Either pray or laugh. Your choice. There's not much else to do at this juncture, really.
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Hang in there, those of you who are still 'Good Men and Women'.

By: gdiafante on 12/29/10 at 7:22

Yes, it's the end of the world. It always is when your party isn't in control. lol

By: Captain Nemo on 12/29/10 at 7:27

Good morning gdia. I think you are right about yogi. Maybe you should give out BF awards to those of us that reply to him. Lol

By: Captain Nemo on 12/29/10 at 7:28

Well that endorsement says a lot for yogi. The Gay Blade thinks yogi to be a good man. lol

By: Captain Nemo on 12/29/10 at 7:37

gdia-

Don’t you just feel so warm and fuzzy when a Butter Knife stands between us and the devil?

By: Kosh III on 12/29/10 at 7:44

" The country you served while in the Navy is no longer recognizable."

That's right. The coloreds can vote and hold office, even buy a house next door and marry your daughter. Women are not required to be barefoot pregnant and in the kitchen, gay citizens are less stigmatized and murdered less often. Yes, many things have changed.

By: serr8d on 12/29/10 at 7:52

And just how long, Kosh b'gosh, can we sustain these excellent social advances you trumpet, if you and dirty socialists like you keep undercutting the fabric of the nation that made these changes possible?

You and yours are anathema to a good outlook for this nation. Nirvana cannot and will not exist, srry; we can continue to make social progress for just as long as the economic engine keeps grinding out pieces and parts. Once that stops, we start moving backwards, the opposite of progress. Can't you get that through you near-as-thick-as-Nemo's skull ?

By: gdiafante on 12/29/10 at 8:03

Some people need to stop living in the past. Time moves forward, not backwards. Either adapt and overcome or get the hell out of the way so the rest of us can.

By: dargent7 on 12/29/10 at 8:05

Nemo: "Time or the inclination"?
That's what my wife (ex) was always asking for...I had the time but as it turns out, not enough "inclination".
She recommended I take Viagra, and I countered maybe she should try loosing some weight.
Didn't go over too good in divorce court.
She ended up with a guy with a bigger elevator and I got a good shaft.

By: Captain Nemo on 12/29/10 at 8:08

I get such a laugh form this tiny dull butter knife when it howls. I can still make squeal like a pig.

By: house_of_pain on 12/29/10 at 8:09

If they insist on building another roundabout, they need to put a big mulberry bush in the center.

By: Captain Nemo on 12/29/10 at 8:09

lol d7

By: Kosh III on 12/29/10 at 8:11

"can we sustain these excellent social advances you trumpet, if you and dirty socialists like you keep undercutting the fabric of the nation that made these changes possible?"

How long? Depends on how long it takes to ensure EQUALITY and FREEDOM for all people, not just rich white men. Why do you hate the basic principles of our Constitution? liberty and justice for ALL.

By: Kosh III on 12/29/10 at 8:19

O! and welcome back serr8d. Long time no see.

By: slacker on 12/29/10 at 8:22

Which raises the question of, how many calories are in a Mulberry?

By: bfra on 12/29/10 at 8:27

yogi - READ & comprehend: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_obama_birth_certificate

By: Captain Nemo on 12/29/10 at 8:38

Kosh-

I am afraid that the meaning of Equality and Freedom is beyond the capacity of the weeping ones lost of manhood to understand.

By: Captain Nemo on 12/29/10 at 8:40

bfra-

That want end the matter for yogi. He still won't believe it is the truth, because he can’t. Half his brain can not comprehend that someone other than a white man and a southerner could lead the country.

The other half is…..well that dead body.

By: yogiman on 12/29/10 at 8:48

bnakat,

Thank you for your comment.

Captain Nemo, you mentioned my being a resident of Gordonsville and people at the HESS station called me the the "Village idiot". It's funny, of the many LTEs I have written to the Carthage Courier I have never received a negative comment on any of them, only positive complements. I guess there must be more idiots in Smith County that agree with me on my comments than highly intelligent ones like yourself.

To make the mention of my obsession about Obama's sitting in the Oval Office illegality, yes, I am obsessed on that matter. We do have a Constitution our Founders left as a great guide for our nation. Until the recent years, it was considered the best in the world. We are rapidly approaching the 'back of the line'. As I said before; if our legislatures aren't going to follow it we may just as well replace the Sear-Roebuck catalog in the outhouse with it.

If you can understand, it isn't just Obama who is leading our nation down the road to ruin, it is the politicians that claim to be American legislators of today. If you are in favor of it, so be it.

As I have stated several times about our nation being around the corner of socialism and not too far down the road from communism. We are just rounding that corner and fixing to head down the road.

As I have said before; time will tell. Consider your siding with Obama's eligibility, why has he spent (based on my last reading) over 2 million dollars to keep all of his personal records under lock and key?

And by the way, I'm not ashamed to be known by my 'human' name or my on line name. Why are you, who are making such negative comments about me so unwilling to identify yourselves? Ashamed of being who you are? Just a question.

By: serr8d on 12/29/10 at 8:50

Why do you hate the basic principles of our Constitution? liberty and justice for ALL.

Liberty and justice, sure, but not a sustained free lunch provided for everyone by everyone else. ALL have the rights to strive for excellence; ALL have the rights to be just as equal as the next person. NONE have the rights to an equal outcome.

Yeah, I added NCP to my rotating Firefox tab what open first thing, along with the NYT, FOX, Drudge, The Guardian and RCP. It'll sit up here until I get bored with it again.

But Nemo, he's so much fun to poke with a stick on occasion. But I feel bad about it really; the old boy just can't hang with the big dawgs... ;D

By: bfra on 12/29/10 at 8:50

Nemo - Probably not, but I tried!

By: serr8d on 12/29/10 at 8:57

My fears for those who still spout the 'birther' argument is that BHO is dangling this as red meat, toying with (and demeaning the arguments of) people for as long as he possibly can.

As I've commented to 'birthers' many times over, the 'birther' argument died when BHO assumed the Office of Prezzidint. All of that became moot, and of little further consequence. There's plenty of 'gotchas!' in BHO's past (his inability and unwillingness to post his grades from the various colleges he attended; his 'palling around with terrorists' Bill Ayers (who likely ghost authored 'Dreams' for him) and other unsavory sorts whilst smoking doobs in college; his lack of any substantive writings while he was 'Dean of Harvard Law School'; and on and on.

The 'birther' angle is a unfortunate distraction AFAIC.

By: Captain Nemo on 12/29/10 at 8:59

He answered it for you, bfra. lol

By: Captain Nemo on 12/29/10 at 9:04

By: serr8d on 12/29/10 at 7:20
Same Nemotard as always I see, he's still dumber than a bag of hammers. Some things never change; one cannot force an extra ounce of intelligence into an already-cast brick.
Seems like yogi is a Good Man. Certainly we need to hear more from people of his generation,…………………………………

With yogi passion for the dumb, you still think him of sound half mind?

By: serr8d on 12/29/10 at 9:06

Oh. Someone's missing. Where's IDGAF ? And wasn't there a little trollop running around here who used to be called ISIT2008YET ?

By: serr8d on 12/29/10 at 9:09

yogi is passionate about his beliefs, Nemo. You, with your limited one-sentence discourses seem to be passionate about nothing except possibly eating.

How much do you weigh nowadays? I'm envisioning a great mass of humanity of such capacity that would cause M'Chelle to withdraw in fright... )

By: gdiafante on 12/29/10 at 9:11

I didn't realize that today was romper room. Maybe I'll check back when the adults have regained control.

By: bfra on 12/29/10 at 9:13

serr8d = I wouldn't call it passion, more like paranoia!

By: serr8d on 12/29/10 at 9:16

Another ginormous load, likely...

[Elepahantine gdiafante stomps off, cracking tiles whilst inhaling yet another box of doughnuts]

By: Captain Nemo on 12/29/10 at 9:17

gdia-

You are in charge of BF award and our new award and the pig boy award in honor of the squealing butter knife.

By: bfra on 12/29/10 at 9:20

g - If you are bored here, you can always check out the Karl thread and see what was thought of your praise for the low-life.

By: Captain Nemo on 12/29/10 at 9:20

The pig boy must have gotten kicked off another site and he is taking it out on us.

By: Captain Nemo on 12/29/10 at 9:25

butter knife-

Come on and squeal some for our morning entertainment.

This is like watching a butter knife circling the mulberry bush at the roundabout. lol

By: yogiman on 12/29/10 at 9:30

serr8d,

I disagree with you as the 'birther' question becoming moot. It actually gave true Americans a 'power pill' to find out just who in the hell that guy is. The main question is; what is he hiding?

Why did I read where 13 states had made a re-count over their votes and found more votes than registered voters?

What did she mean when Mrs. Obama made a statement in a lecture to a women's group about them going to Africa to visit his homeland of Kenya? Why did his paternal grandmother tell a preacher interviewing her that she was in the room with his mother when he was born and that she had never been out of Kenya?

If Obama would simply present his birth certificate proving he is a natural born citizen of the USA, I can guarantee you, the fight would be over. But if he is who he says he is, how can a man with a Kenyan father claim to be a natural born citizen of the US?

By the way, In answering a letter to him, Lamar Alexander wrote me back that Obama had been investigated and confirmed to be a natural born citizen. Guess what, when I wrote back asking where the information had been found and why it wasn't passed on the the public I received no answer.

By: Kosh III on 12/29/10 at 9:31

"iberty and justice, sure, but not a sustained free lunch provided for everyone by everyone else."

Yes, I am tired of my tax money going to rich corporations and the war machine to sustain our Empire.
But of course you were actually meaning that you dislike things like using tax money to feed the hungry, heal the sick, support orphans and widows, to help the helpless.....

By: dargent7 on 12/29/10 at 9:37

I think "Romper Room" was filmed in Detroit.
I watched it before "Soupy Sales", who I know was filmed there.
Then Captain Kangaroo, Mr. Moose, Bunny Rabit , Mr. Clock and the gay, Mr. Green Jeans.
Anyone being exposed to that psychotic crap has to go mental, eventually.
Any wonder us baby boomers are all messed up?