Letter to the Editor

Tuesday, January 11, 2011 at 6:09pm

What can we do when innocent children like Christina-Taylor Green are killed senselessly? We can do all we can to prevent the next senseless murder. That means adults need to act like adults. We need to end the wild proliferation of weapons; politicians spewing lies, hatred and intolerance; and people acting as if the Bible and the Constitution give them the right to abandon reason and go on the warpath.

We know the things we need to do if we want our children to live in a safer, better world. We cannot allow the NRA and fearmongering politicians who speak and behave like fascists to rule our lives and endanger innocent children. If we want to live in a safer world, we need to make a pledge to protect the innocent and put an end to the bullying we see everywhere around us.

How can this happen? The answer is simple. How did we end child sacrifice, witchhunts and slavery? We decided as a society that such things are not acceptable. Today we need to decide, as a society, that things that endanger innocent children are not acceptable. This means telling politicians like Sarah Palin to tone down their overheated rhetoric. It means telling the NRA to back off. It means telling politicians that we are not willing to send our children to die in wars to “secure” foreign oilfields or to “support” allies of ours who practice systematic racial and creedal injustices against their own citizens.

And we need to abandon the lie that we were attacked without cause on 9-11. (Christina-Taylor Green was born on Sept. 11, 2001.) We were attacked on 9-11 because our government constantly interferes in the Middle East because of our “oil interests,” and has aided and abetted racist actions of Israel that have caused millions of Palestinians to suffer terribly for over 60 years. Many completely innocent Palestinian women and children have died as a result. If we consider how we feel when one child is killed unjustly, we should be able to understand how Palestinians feel when their children are killed unjustly, or are forced to live in giant walled ghettos and concentration camps while other people constantly steal their land and water.

Now the fear, anger and despair caused by 9-11 and two decade-long wars are causing some Americans to go on the warpath, or to surrender to intolerance and practice injustices against Muslims, even those who are law-abiding American citizens. If we want our children to grow up in safety, we cannot allow our government to kill Muslim women and children, or aid and abet acts of systematic racism that are practiced against them. We have the power to change our world for the better, and an important step is to change our culture and society to not allow things that endanger innocent children. 



Michael R. Burch

Nashville 37221

79 Comments on this post:

By: dargent7 on 1/12/11 at 6:35

"Abandon the lie that we were attacked w/o cause on 9/11..."
How anyone can justify 9/11 is beyond the scope of sanity.
Do you consider these 19 lunatics, "warriors"?
To indiscrimately incinerate and kill 2,900+ is inexcusable on any human plane of thought, argument, or action.
While as a society we have the power to refuse the likes of the Palin's and Limbaugh's, Beck's and Hannity's, we do it thru votes and attention.
9/11 was an act of barbarian psychopaths and I don't give a damn what their personal intrepretation of the "holy" Qur'an insructed.

By: govskeptic on 1/12/11 at 6:40

So Mr. Burch didn't like the results of the last election nor the
direction of the current American elecorate! Yes, the death of
Ms. Green is tragic as well as those just killed and injuried in Az.
Her death was caused by a totally deranged individual and
contrary to this letter and the press had nothing to do with the
individuals mentioned. Attack the conservative voters is the
purpose in most of these type letters and coverage of this very
tragic event. Facts be damned when the opportunity arises!

By: Captain Nemo on 1/12/11 at 7:11

Good morning
http://images.inmagine.com/img/corbis/crb080/crb080043.jpg

By: Captain Nemo on 1/12/11 at 7:12

That is not quite true gov. It is not the conservatives that are being attacked; it is the extremist and fringe right that has taken over the conservatives. If you feel that you are being attack then it is because you are not doing anything to stop it. Have you been called a RINO lately or do you say nothing about being a moderate?

By: Captain Nemo on 1/12/11 at 7:14

After reading the post from yesterday between bfra and pig boy, I have to ask; what is the difference between serr8d and Loughner? The pig boy is still on the street.

By: Captain Nemo on 1/12/11 at 7:22

I ask this and all I got in return was a demotion. lol

By: Captain Nemo on 1/11/11 at 10:53
If someone was to put the crosshairs on Palin, what would bud say?

By: Antisocialite on 1/12/11 at 8:40

dargent7, clearly Mr. Burch is not 'justifying' the September 11th attack, but rather stating a verifiable fact... A large reason for the attacks was our meddlesome foreign policy in the Mideast, bin Laden has explicitly said as much. As far as whether or not he considers the hijackers 'warriors' or not... who cares, it changes absolutely nothing about the situation, and whether you call them warriors or unicorns they still carried out their despicable actions on that day. However, since I like semantics I do think that the term warrior is acceptable here. Unless of course you wouldn't define the crazies that took over those planes as 'engaged aggressively in an activity, cause or conflict.'

By: yogiman on 1/12/11 at 8:51

Michael,

The one thing no one is looking forward to during their life on this earth is their death.

You seem to want to blame Mrs. Palin and/or the NRA for the child's death. You seem to want to throw it into politics.

If you would like to stop any more killings from guns, why don't you present a program that would take away all guns from this earth? That way we would only have to use knives or some other instrument to kill someone. We feel bad when anyone is killed unjustly.

If you would read the Bible and history books you would see that wars and deaths have been occurring since time began.

You seem to have the knowledge of all reasons, why not present them to Congress. Maybe then we could have a world of peace.

By: Loner on 1/12/11 at 9:02

Good morning, Nashville!

Great LTE.

Michael R. Burch has touched on some ugly realities. As America slides deeper and deeper into theocratic governance, where Holy Scripture trumps the US Constitution, we can expect more acts of senseless violence and depraved indifference to human life. That is what Holy Wars are all about. Mass hysteria replaces common sense.

Keep in mind, the War Lobby is a tripartite consortium: Defense, Israel & Energy (DIE). None of those lobbies has exclusive allegiance to the USA, or looks out for our US national interests. The War Lobby is in the Holy War business these days, and business is booming.

The War Lobby has its enablers in DHS and other federal agencies. US Homeland Security (DHS) immediately tried to portray this Tucson shooting as an act of anti-Semitic terrorism; indeed, the Jerusalem Post ran articles suggesting this might be the case and FOX News also played along with the DHS spin machine.

As it turns out, the shooter's mother is reported to be Jewish and may belong to the same synagogue as Rep. Giffords, that's according to this current People's Voice online article:

http://www.thepeoplesvoice.org/TPV3/Voices.php/2011/01/11/giffords-shooter-was-jewish-30-minute-re

If this is true, then the shooter is a Jew.

The useful "anti-Semitic terrorism" allegation is looking like a failed attempt to exploit this tragedy for political purposes. Pro-Israel operatives inside DHS seem to be running the show; nothing surprising there. Helen Thomas is right; Zionists are in control of our federal government....this ham-handed attempt at exploitation is further evidence of the truth in Helen's unvarnished remarks.

By: Captain Nemo on 1/12/11 at 9:06

There you go again yogi, blaming God for the acts of men. You just can’t face that your actions are no one else fault but you own. I’m sure that Loughner thinks that he is acting on the benefit of God or his version of God. Just like you think that you are acting for God or whatever twisted shape you see God.

By: yogiman on 1/12/11 at 9:43

Who else am I to blame, nimrod; You?

By: BenDover on 1/12/11 at 9:50

It's pretty opportunistic, and sick even; to use the actions of a nut and the tragedy these families are suffering to advance a political cause. I don't think it'll play this time though. The media doesn't have a monopoly on thought anymore so the old trick of playing on people's confirmation biases now cuts both ways. For everyone the media motivates to further outrage over this faux libel against conservatism they will stiffen the resolve of two others who now recognize it as the method of manipulation suffered under the left-wing media monopoly of old.

By: BenDover on 1/12/11 at 9:57

What will happen when a right-winger does finally flip out and fulfill their long-standing prophecies? I think they run the risk of the boy who cried wolf, because every time a critical incident like this happens the lefties try to hitch their wagon to it. So it may go unheralded by the desensitized masses who are rightly becoming more and more suspect of the messenger.

By: AmyLiorate on 1/12/11 at 10:01

Good morning all!

"Every time I feel the urge to defend Sarah Palin, she helpfully says something stupid to disabuse me of the notion."
~ Radley Balko

"We must reject the idea that every time a law's broken, society is guilty rather than the lawbreaker. It is time to restore the American precept that each individual is accountable for his actions."
~ Ronald Reagan

By: budlight on 1/12/11 at 10:04

MIchael, you only mentioned Palin. In 2008, OBAMA employed the use of "guns" in his Philidelphia speech. YOU need to address that. Palin is not the only one.

"Amy Chozick reports on the presidential race from Philadelphia. Mobster wisdom tells us never to bring a knife to a gun fight. But what does political wisdom say about bringing a gun to a knife fight?

That’s exactly what Barack Obama said he would do to counter Republican attacks “If they bring a knife to the fight, we bring a gun,” Obama said at a Philadelphia fundraiser Friday night. “Because from what I understand folks in Philly like a good brawl. I’ve seen Eagles fans.”

We took God out of schools and homes and replaced him with guns and violence. Loughner is not a christian, Nemo. He has not claimed to be and is far from what Christianity stands for. Get with the program. Libs always blame God when it's man who did the evil deed.

By: conservarage on 1/12/11 at 10:06

I've rarely seen so much garbage packed into one letter.

i don't even know where to start.

By: AmyLiorate on 1/12/11 at 10:07

Whoa, news flash

Lebanon government may be collapsing as I type. 11 of 30 cabinet members have quit. The Hezbollah group leaves the state in some turmoil.

By: brrrrk on 1/12/11 at 10:38

budlight said

"We took God out of schools and homes and replaced him with guns and violence."

LOL.... clearly you need to get out more, expand your personal horizons a bit. I know plenty of people that could be described as non-Christians (at least in the eyes of most Southerners), and for the most part they do not own guns and completely denounce violence of any type.

By: brrrrk on 1/12/11 at 10:52

AmyLiorate said

"We must reject the idea that every time a law's broken, society is guilty rather than the lawbreaker. It is time to restore the American precept that each individual is accountable for his actions."
~ Ronald Reagan

This is makes the massive assumption, of course, that there is absolutely no connection being the acts of the individual and the society (small and/or large) in which they were raised.

"All mankind is of one author, and is one volume; when one man dies, one chapter is not torn out of the book, but translated into a better language; and every chapter must be so translated...

As therefore the bell that rings to a sermon, calls not upon the preacher only, but upon the congregation to come: so this bell calls us all: but how much more me, who am brought so near the door by this sickness....

No man is an island, entire of itself...

any man's death diminishes me, because I am involved in mankind; and therefore never send to know for whom the bell tolls; it tolls for thee."

John Donne, from Devotions upon Emergent Occasions (1623), XVII

By: budlight on 1/12/11 at 11:08

obama is not a "southerner" brrrrk and neither was the guy who shot the congresswoman and others. Who shot Lennon? a southerner? nope. Address my concern: Obama said he'd bring a "gun" if republicans bring a knife.

What did obama mean, oh yeah of "know it all".?

Stick to the topic. Why can obama say "bring a gun" ? Are his words immune from inflaming libs? I think not.

By: dargent7 on 1/12/11 at 11:12

That's the prevelant paradigm now being explored:
Loughner was a "lone assassin", he was mentally ill by all accounts, he should of been arrested 2 years ago for acting "crazy". It's the Sheriff's fault, not the live-in parent's. Selling 30 round magazines for a 9mm. is of no consequence. Duck season is just around the corner.
Or: society acts on an individual, parental influences, political leaders hate and destructive speeches, religion, music, and now the biggest one: the Internet.
Liberals view society and life thru a larger lense than Conservatives.
Everything to a GOP conservative is "cut and dried", "black or white". Easy solutions to complex problems....just allow for more guns in more places and everything will be fine and dandy.
There's a line in the sand being drawn, and it's becoming more like concrete every passing year in America.

By: yogiman on 1/12/11 at 11:17

You don't seem to understand, budlight. Obama is a Demoncrat, not a Republcant.

By: yogiman on 1/12/11 at 11:18

I hit the button too fast, I meant to add he can say anything he wants to, no one else, though.

By: brrrrk on 1/12/11 at 11:19

Well done dargent7,

Or as I heard it put.... The biggest difference between the right and the left is that the right has no problem with a more violent and poorer country, as long as they (the right) are the safe and wealthy ones.

By: budlight on 1/12/11 at 11:22

Yogi, do you mean "double standards"? I think it's ok for obama to use "GUNS" but no one else.

And they are pluck, pluck, cluck, cluck toooo-tooo chicken to address the matter. After all, "who's your daddy" obama is giving out free stuff. don't wanna upset the "apple pie freebee cart".

God loves us all. . . . even democrats who say they are not political, but we know the truth.

By: slacker on 1/12/11 at 11:38

Materialism versus Idealism, brrrrk.

By: yogiman on 1/12/11 at 11:44

budlight,

Aren't we supposed to be "following our leader"? If so, My thought would be if Obama can use the word 'gun' in his language, everyone else should be able, too.

The only thing "special" I see about Obama is he is the best actor and liar I have ever seen on TV, at least as long as his prompter doesn't shut off. If it does, he seems to stutter a lot. Didn't he know what he was going to say?

By: Loner on 1/12/11 at 12:18

Candidate Obama stupidly used one gun analogy two years ago and the right wingers are pointing to that attempt at humor and calling it the exact moral equivalent of their 24/7 barrage of hate speech directed at the President and his programs. Dupes like our resident troll eat-up and digest crap like that and then regurgitate it here....ad nauseum.

By: Antisocialite on 1/12/11 at 12:30

The ignorance... it hurts. While yogiman and budlight compete to see who can trot out the most talking points, let me try and inject a little sanity into their drivel.

First, no one, and I mean no one should ever be barred from expressing this type of rhetoric or even the tasteless symbolism that was so evident on Palin's website. Metaphor, simile, hyperbole, and all other types of speech should never be restricted. However, this does not mean that those who engage in this type of vitriol have no responsibility for the political/social climate those words foster. Has Obama engaged in rhetoric that may have been questionable... yes, however if you are being honest (a tall order for the closed minded I know) you cannot even begin to compare the very few quotes from Obama and the left that seem to allude to violent imagery to that of Sarah Palin and the hard right wing. So far budlight has zeroed in on the 'gun to a knife fight' line that Obama uttered, which is a fair point, but I won't hold my breath for another example.

I'd also like to point out that yogiman, genius that he is, decided to trot out the old teleprompter song and dance that the dimmest of our country have been caught up on since Obama's election. Let me put this to you in ways that hopefully you can understand, EVERYONE USES A TELEPROMPTER, and before that guess what... they used a hard copy of their speech sitting right in front of them. You know who else uses a teleprompter? Sarah Palin, Glenn Beck, Sean Hannity, Bill O'Reilly, John Boehner, George W. Bush (quite ineffectively I might add), Eric Cantor, Bill Haslem, and even, god forbid Saint Ronald Reagan. Only a true moron would think that this is a bad thing. Unfortunately it is the true morons that sit in front of their computer screens, struggling to put together a coherent one paragraph internet comment that complain the most about this practice.

By: AmyLiorate on 1/12/11 at 12:37

Also in current events:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110112/ap_on_re_us/us_self_defense_shooting

By: budlight on 1/12/11 at 12:42

Candidate Obama stupidly used one gun analogy two years ago and the right wingers are pointing to that attempt at humor

Humor? I didn't laugh at it. He didn't mean it for humor. He meant that if Republicans want to fight, Dems can fight dirty. Which he does.

By: Antisocialite on 1/12/11 at 12:47

I have more trust in an autistic child to pick up on the meaning of Obama's words than budlight.

By: pswindle on 1/12/11 at 12:47

The hate started when President Obama won the election. The white southern men can not stand to have a black president. I wonder if he had been white would all of this hate have started. I think not. I have friends that have said terrible thing about our President. As bad as Bush was and stupid, I still respected the office.

By: yogiman on 1/12/11 at 12:49

While I agree with you on some issues, Antisocialite, I must disagree with you on others.

A teleprompter is not the same as a "hard copy" of a talk you are giving. If the talk is only for a few minutes, and you know what you are talking about, you shouldn't need any notes unless you have a fear of being in front of a crowd (and many are. And I think that might be a fear of making a mistake and looking, or sounding, like a damn fool, which some are on the subject). If it is a long talk, the hard copy is simply to "let you know" where you are in your talk. It helps prevent you from repeating what you are trying to say too many times. And yes, I've heard that happen before.

I also understand in the realms of life, executives have staff writers write what they are going to be talking about. Too often the speaker has no idea what they are saying because I have heard some of them ask (after the speech), "What did I say?"

By: brrrrk on 1/12/11 at 12:50

Antisocialite said

"I have more trust in an autistic child to pick up on the meaning of Obama's words than budlight."

ROFLMAO!!!

By: AmyLiorate on 1/12/11 at 12:52

Anti says "So far budlight has zeroed in on the 'gun to a knife fight' line that Obama uttered, which is a fair point, but I won't hold my breath for another example."

From yesterday ( http://tinyurl.com/crow2eat ):
Obama: “If they Bring a Knife, We Bring a Gun”
Obama: “Argue with neighbors, Get in Their Faces!”
Obama: “I don’t want to quell anger. I think people are right to be angry! I’m angry!”
Obama’s White House Deputy Chief: “If you get hit, we will punch back twice as hard,”
Obama: “We talk to these folks…so I know whose A** to kick.“
Obama to voters: Republican victory would mean, “hand to hand combat”
Obama to Latino supporters: “Punish your enemies.”
Obama to democrats: “I’m itching for a fight"

By: HokeyPokey on 1/11/11 at 8:57

@amy we've all seen the list, many times.

You really needn't have wasted the electrons to copy it over there and paste it over here.

Maybe it wasn't so much a waste HP?

Look, both sides like to talk tough and once in a while rattle a little saber. I might agree with some of you that conservatives could a little heavier users of some terms like those above.

But let's put something into perspective: ACTIONS. Who is Barack Obama's friend (or just a loose acquaintance?) that was involved with a bombing?

I'm not pointing any fingers at either side. None are without dirt and blood on their hands. But this guy was a nut. Insane people can't be used as examples for much outside of psychology.

By: brrrrk on 1/12/11 at 12:55

Loner said

"Candidate Obama stupidly used one gun analogy two years ago and the right wingers are pointing to that attempt at humor and calling it the exact moral equivalent of their 24/7 barrage of hate speech directed at the President and his programs."

Agreed. For every example of what the GOP defines as "hate speech" coming from the left, there are hundreds of examples from the right.

By: yogiman on 1/12/11 at 12:59

What makes you think Obama is the first 'black' president, pswindle? Why isn't he considered to be the 44th 'white' president? He can, factually, only be considered to be the first Mulatto president. That is if he was in the office legally.

You apparently aren't a Tennessean. The Civil War is where Tennessee earned the name "Volunteer State". More Tennesseans volunteered for the Union Army than the Confederate Army. To free the slaves, pswindle, not keep them in harness.

You need to learn more about the facts than just to consider your thoughts.

By: brrrrk on 1/12/11 at 1:02

AmyLiorate said

"Anti says "So far budlight has zeroed in on the 'gun to a knife fight' line that Obama uttered, which is a fair point, but I won't hold my breath for another example."

From yesterday ( http://tinyurl.com/crow2eat ):
Obama: “If they Bring a Knife, We Bring a Gun”
Obama: “Argue with neighbors, Get in Their Faces!”
Obama: “I don’t want to quell anger. I think people are right to be angry! I’m angry!”
Obama’s White House Deputy Chief: “If you get hit, we will punch back twice as hard,”
Obama: “We talk to these folks…so I know whose A** to kick.“
Obama to voters: Republican victory would mean, “hand to hand combat”
Obama to Latino supporters: “Punish your enemies.”
Obama to democrats: “I’m itching for a fight""

Amy, you know what I see missing from these comments that we regularly see from the right.... phrases and words like "kill", "take out", "hang", "blow up", etc....

By: brrrrk on 1/12/11 at 1:05

yogiman said

"What makes you think Obama is the first 'black' president, pswindle? Why isn't he considered to be the 44th 'white' president?"

When you look in the mirror, do you call yourself a black man? Chances are very good that you may have some "color" in you lineage somewhere..... even if you're lily white.

By: Antisocialite on 1/12/11 at 1:06

Sorry Yogi, but I just can't buy that line of reasoning at all. The teleprompter is simply the 21st century (20th really) version of the hard copy. The mechanics are different, sure, mainly because the prompter allows you to look out at your audience and the speech simultaneously, but your assertion that that makes it different is questionable, at best. I also disagree with your notion that the hard copies were simply to 'let you know' where you are. That may be true for some people, but to try and extrapolate that out to an entire population is ludicrous. Surely you realize that everyone has different strengths and weaknesses and that no one method is 'correct' in this regard.

All this gets away from the real point though, and that is that attacking someone because of their teleprompter use is an unabashed ad hominem attack that does nothing but take the focus away from something that actually matters. FYI, it would be equally disgusting and distracting if liberal commentators made this accusation about conservatives, only that hasn't happened here.

By: AmyLiorate on 1/12/11 at 1:06

You're right brrrrk. We need to keep bickering over semantics. That's the solution!

By: Antisocialite on 1/12/11 at 1:13

Sorry Yogi (redundant I know), but Tennessee actually earned the Volunteer State title after the War of 1812, mostly because of the Battle of New Orleans.

You should probably be completely sure about something like that before questioning if someone else is from Tennessee, don't you think?

By: Antisocialite on 1/12/11 at 1:14

Amy, those quotes would be a lot more compelling if they were, I don't know, in some kind of context. Get back with me on that one.

By: yogiman on 1/12/11 at 1:35

I do have color in my blood, brrrrk. My paternal great-grandmother was a Choctaw Indian. Am I ashamed of it. Hell no! Should anyone be ashamed of their racial heritage? Hell no! They didn't have a choice of what race they were being born in to so why should they be ashamed?

I've often wondered why this racial issue keeps coming up in our nation. I can only consider it is for the benefit of the ones who are using it, i.e., Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton, and now newer ones. Should I mention any names?

By: AmyLiorate on 1/12/11 at 1:35

Meanwhile some NY Republican thinks that if there had been a 1000 foot gun free zone around the Congresswoman and the judge then no shooting would have taken place.

Does that make any sense? He thinks criminals will obey the law.

More fodder for Brrrrks semantics thread:
"Sen. Joe Manchin (D., W.Va) won his seat with a television ad in which he shoots a hole through unpopular federal energy legislation. "

If you want to keep up that thread Brrrk, then please begin with statements from other presidents that used the words "kill", "take out", "hang", "blow up" in sentences that were not related to war but directed at their domestic party opponents and or factions.

If we look deep into the left we will groups on the "left" who drive spikes into trees in order to disrupt logging. Those can turn chainsaws into shrapnel as quick as you can say handgrenade.

By: AmyLiorate on 1/12/11 at 1:55

Anti, I have better things to do than research context for each of Obama's remarks. I'm not the one who is saying one group of political mindsets is responsible for the actions of an insane person. In fact to continue trying to make that case only convinces me that you may also be leaking faculties.

People on here have known me for a while and know that my posts can be very much bashing Republicans as well as Democrats. There's plenty of things we can honestly pin on both groups.

The AZ gunman, I think you guys will get very frustrated trying to push that square peg into a round hole.

You said "I won't hold my breath for another example". And when someone showed you that both Dems and Reps use such remarks, well you turned a blind eye to the truth. All I did was point out that no one side is wearing a halo. And remarks like that go all the way to the top!

By: yogiman on 1/12/11 at 2:00

You are right, Antisocialite,

I have always taken my teachers for their word. I was raised to believe they knew what they were teaching us kids. Hey, we're talking 75 years ago.

It was the War of 1812. But even so, the facts of the Civil War still hold true (at least that's what I was taught), so maybe we can be called the "Two Times Volunteer State", or maybe the "Double Volunteer State".

By: yogiman on 1/12/11 at 2:06

Amy,

I must agree with you on the "two party system". Can anyone explicitly explain the difference between the Democratic and Republican parties? They seem like 'all for one and one for all'.

By: AmyLiorate on 1/12/11 at 2:08

A high school friend of the accused gunman dismissed speculation that Loughner's alleged rampage was sparked by political passion.

"He did not watch TV, he disliked the news," Zach Osler said. "He didn't listen to political radio, he didn't take sides, he wasn't on the left, he wasn't on the right."

Osler said that Loughner was angred at the world.

"He wasn't shooting people, he was shooting at the world," the friend said.

http://tinyurl.com/pinTheTailOnTheDonkey

In other news... Herman Cain seems to have entered the race to become president in 2012. Please, please all of you be sure to vote for him in the primary. It would be awesome to have black men running on both tickets. Maybe then a lot of this silly race card crap could be played out. I'm assuming that Herman Cain was truly born in the USofA under no strange circumstances. Please check your tinfoil hat at the polling line.

http://nymag.com/daily/intel/2011/01/first_person_to_form_a_preside.html