Letter to the Editor

Thursday, January 20, 2011 at 10:05pm

 

If you are contracted by the city you are, by definition, doing a city project. And I see nothing wrong with requiring those that do business with the city to adopt the same nondiscrimination policies as the city itself.

No, it isn't "imposing on private business" because guess what? Those businesses are free to not bid on city contracts if they want to keep in place their implicitly bigoted policies. Isn't that — freedom — what conservatives always clamor for?

What makes all this so funny is that Metro would essentially be implementing the same sort of discriminatory practices on these businesses [by not hiring them] as [these businesses] already do on their employees — and [the businesses] are the ones moaning and groaning about "fairness." 

Give me a break.

Posted by "Antisocialite"

 

 

79 Comments on this post:

By: Captain Nemo on 1/21/11 at 5:59

Good morning
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By: Captain Nemo on 1/21/11 at 5:59

Wow what a letter Antisocialite. It should make one think, but I am sure that there will some that thinking is beyond their capability.

By: Captain Nemo on 1/21/11 at 6:06

By: yogiman on 1/20/11 at 5:10
Gee! I wish I was as brilliant as you few seem to think you are.

We don’t have to be brilliant yogi. We just look it up, read it and then understand what we read. It really is not that hard to do.

By: govskeptic on 1/21/11 at 6:11

Is "thinking" an exclusive to those with Liberal ideas and
"I'm OK you're Ok" feelings running through their veins?
On this particular LTE subject I suspect there are solid
arguments on both sides!

By: Captain Nemo on 1/21/11 at 6:31

gov-

Thinking is not exclusive to Liberal. I know plenty of Conservatives that I admire and agree with. Their ideas have greatly increased my view of the world. Your post seems to be a bias brush stroke.

By: dargent7 on 1/21/11 at 6:39

I have no idea what this hijacked "post" is talking about.
Whe TCP takes these comments out of context it ruins what a "Letter to the Ediitor" is all about.
Ok: Pittsburgh 31
NY Jets 19
Detroit Lions 0 because luckily they were not playing.

By: wataboutbob on 1/21/11 at 7:39

You're right dargent, total jibberish!

By: dargent7 on 1/21/11 at 7:49

Bears 29
Packers 21
Maybe TCP will publish this as a LTE next Monday?

By: Antisocialite on 1/21/11 at 8:20

So wait, City Paper just picks comments out of their forums and posts them as letters to the editor?

By: house_of_pain on 1/21/11 at 8:22

Yup...didn't you see my little gem they used yesterday?

By: Antisocialite on 1/21/11 at 8:24

You would think they would at least reference (hopefully link) the story that it pertained to... I'm not crazy about this system.

Why not just have an email address that you can submit these to?

By: yogiman on 1/21/11 at 8:52

I agree with you on this issue, Antisoicialite. You work for me, you follow my guidelines.

Captain Nemo,

We apparently seem to be reading different articles. Or at best, we interpret the words differently.

By: Captain Nemo on 1/21/11 at 8:55

Now what are you talking about yogi?

By: dargent7 on 1/21/11 at 8:56

Anti-S: As a life-time member I can tell you the facts:
As of about 4 months ago, "they" just pluck a "post" out of the Comments.
Their e-mail address is "editor@nashvillecitypaper.com"
But, they've come up with this system.
Before this, they'd keep the same LTE in for over a week.
Even "House" and "Nemo" were seen buying The Tennessean tp protest.

By: Captain Nemo on 1/21/11 at 9:05

Not true Paul. I don’t buy the Tennessean. I go on line or read a the paper if I find a used one at Starbucks.

By: gdiafante on 1/21/11 at 9:22

I think that the lack of LTE's have prompted this new trend. I don't mind. They could eliminate it entirely if they wanted.

By: house_of_pain on 1/21/11 at 9:22

Well, I just tried to make it out of my subdivision...no dice, just ice.

By: yogiman on 1/21/11 at 9:25

In answer to your question of 8:55, captain Nemo, I was simply making a statement in response to your statement at 6:06: "We don't have to be brilliant yogi. We just look it up, read it and then understand what we read. It really is not that hard to do."

It apparently is. Did you mean you have "read" what you intended to "read"?

By: Funditto on 1/21/11 at 9:42

Slate.com sure has been fun lately. The comments are over the top.

By: dargent7 on 1/21/11 at 9:43

Hey, any of you folks catch the "20th Anniversary" of the Iraqi war special on NBC last night?
Get this: Brian Williams had 6 stooges from Bush I, Cheney, Powell, even Dan Quayle sit around a table and reminisce how attacking Iraq in 1991 and again in 2003 was a "good thing".
Georgie was not there. Why? It was staged in his Library.
The whole gang should of been rounded up and sent in leg irons to Folsom State Prison to punch out license plates for .13 cents an hour.
Maybe do the laundry for .14 cents.

By: Captain Nemo on 1/21/11 at 9:45

There you go again, reading something that is not there. I was responding to your condescending post from yesterday.

By: yogiman on 1/20/11 at 5:10 Condescending
Gee! I wish I was as brilliant as you few seem to think you are.

By: Captain Nemo on 1/21/11 at 9:52

yogi-

Sarcastic name calling is still name calling.

By: Captain Nemo on 1/21/11 at 9:55

Paul-

I saw part of it and got a chuckle as 666-Cheney dismissed anything Powel had to say about the Iraq war of Choice.

By: Captain Nemo on 1/21/11 at 9:55

Got to go for now.

By: govskeptic on 1/21/11 at 10:01

So, the Asian Tiger has spent 2 days eating our American dove
and Nashville is consumed by two overweight soccer coaches!
What issues we have to worry about in this fair city!

By: cval on 1/21/11 at 10:21

Why is it I am allowed to comment on certain stories and not others? The story about the officer who backed into a parked car while working a part time gig had 3 comments and I wanted to add my two cents, but after logging in, got a note that read I am not authorized to access that page. But, I can comment here. What gives, editors? Are you deciding who can comment based on past statements of opinion? Is there no freedom of speech on City Paper? Is City Paper an American version of Izvestia?

By: Funditto on 1/21/11 at 10:24

cval - was it a nashville post story? You have to pay to access or comment there.

By: house_of_pain on 1/21/11 at 10:35

It's an NCP article. Go back & try again.

By: Antisocialite on 1/21/11 at 10:37

cval, I was just able to comment on that article. My advice is the same as house_of_pain's.

By: Loner on 1/21/11 at 11:07

Good morning, Nashville!

Back from my morning errands. I agree with anti_socialite's commentary. There is a delicious irony in that Metro can now discriminate against the discriminators...if the proposed legislation goes through.

Bears will beat the Pack and Pittsburgh will whip the Jets.....Bears will go on to win Super Bowl with Urlacher as MVP....my sports crystal ball is quite clear on this.

By: house_of_pain on 1/21/11 at 11:16

Packers & Jets in the Bowl.
I haven't had a shower yet, so my crystal balls may not be as clear as Loner's.

By: Loner on 1/21/11 at 11:30

Rep Steve Cohen's Goebbel's-Nazi analogy has gotten national coverage...I commented on this NCP thread:

http://nashvillecitypaper.com/content/city-news/republican-party-chair-criticizes-cohen-goebbels-comment

Rep. Cohen is fully authorized to use terms like, "blood libel", "existential threat", "Zionism", "apartheid", "Holocaust" etc. and to construct Nazi analogies and compare folks with Hitler. That stuff is pretty much off-limits to Gentiles, of course.

Jimmy Carter thoughtlessly used the A-word, (Apartheid) to describe Israel's racist conduct in the Occupied Territories and Helen Thomas used the Z-word, (Zionists) to describe Israel's supporters in government and the private sector.... those two Gentiles paid a heavy price for doing so.

More recently, Sarah Palin found out that Gentiles cannot use the term, "blood libel" without drawing the wrath of the ADL and the Israel lobby.

So no, Steve's perfectly authorized to use these terms and make these analogies...he's not a Gentile.

Is everyone clear on that?

By: slacker on 1/21/11 at 11:36

Can a company owned by gay Nazi's do business with the city?

By: Loner on 1/21/11 at 11:41

Excellent question, Slacker....right now, no, they can't....they are gay. Soon though, the Swastika-wearing sissies will be able to come out of the closet and enjoy the American Dream too. Isn't that special?

By: Loner on 1/21/11 at 11:42

....self-hating Jewish Nazi goose-steps into a gay piano bar......

By: house_of_pain on 1/21/11 at 12:05

...and orders a Sweaty Lumberjack, kosher...

By: Loner on 1/21/11 at 12:19

Works for me, House, LOL.

Here is a link to a WaPo blog article that includes a video of Steve Cohen's Nazi remarks:

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/blog-post/2011/01/megyn_kelly_and_the_nazi_quest.html

This incident proves the point that, although the House Chamber may be vacant when these speeches are made, the cameras and mic's are on. IMO, Steve Cohen tracked doo-doo into the House Chamber and left smelly footprints on the new carpet. Neither the Dems nor the GOP is apt to excuse his behavior....he got part of his 15 minutes of big-time fame...or was it infamy?

By: house_of_pain on 1/21/11 at 12:58

Loner,(and the rest of the 'regulars') I'd appreciate it if you would go to this link, and vote for my entry...

http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=258166&id=195059495204#!/photo.php?fbid=483912165204&set=a.483860465204.258166.195059495204

I'm trying to win some killer BBQ.

By: BenDover on 1/21/11 at 1:25

It's just another layer of unnecessary BS... it's illegal to discriminate against anyone in this country for race, color, religion, sex or national origin and it has been this way based on title VII of the civil rights act of 1964 (that was 47 years ago to the math challenged). If someone is breaking the law then fine or arrest them. Otherwise take your thumb-sucking, cry-baby whining about your perceived injustice de jure and stick it where the sun don't shine. That is all.

By: gdiafante on 1/21/11 at 1:48

Who's whining now, Ben?

By: BenDover on 1/21/11 at 2:39

Antisocialite is whining, GD.

Implicitly bigoted? wtf?

By: Antisocialite on 1/21/11 at 2:44

As far as Steve Cohen's little controversy goes, I really don't see the big deal. Was it questionable? Sure. Was it accurate? Absolutely.

Actually, I believe Goebbels would have been put to shame by the media campaign of misinformation that people like Karl Rove and Rush Limbaugh have thrown into the public discourse using Rupert Murdoch's and others various 'news' outlets. And I only say 'put to shame' because these people did it in a free-market system, where they had to fight for dominance; whereas Goebbels was, by default, the only source of information as Propaganda minister.

America really needs to get over this perpetually offended mindset that it has developed. Yes it's fine for Cohen to compare this stuff to Goebbels, and not because he's Jewish, because he is American and we have certain unalienable rights, including free speech. Goebbels is a major part of history, and as such there is no reason to shy away from apt comparisons. Just because he was a Nazi doesn't mean that nothing he did had merit either, the man was a master of propaganda techniques that are still being used everywhere, which is exactly what Cohen was referring to... The Big Lie technique (look it up). Next thing you know people will be complaining about calling a measure Draconian, because heaven forbid we compare someone to a historical figure. I suppose McCarthyism will be the next of the taboo terms.

This is quite different from using violent imagery in a political speech, by the way. There is no 'call to action' in a direct comparison between a Nazi or a Communist, or whatever else someone may trot out. This is simply hyperbole, and while it's use is sometimes unhelpful it is a far cry from calling for 'Second Amendment remedies'.

By: Antisocialite on 1/21/11 at 2:46

It's called a dictionary Ben, here I'll do it for you:

implicit - implied or understood though not directly expressed

bigoted - strongly partial to one's own group, religion, race, or politics and is intolerant of those who differ.

By: BenDover on 1/21/11 at 3:10

Another miseducated crusader... outraged on behalf of others... "everyone else is an idiot"... and who has yet to learn how little he/she knows. You see what sprouts around here when you keep spreadin' that fertilizer loner? If this is a snapshot of what this CityPaper forum has become it may be too far gone to save.

By: Antisocialite on 1/21/11 at 3:22

You are correct BenDover, if the types of posts on this forum become as vacuous and trite as your latest post it is certainly too far gone to save.

By: Loner on 1/21/11 at 3:28

House, I tried to vote...I'm not on Facebook, so I can't. BTW, wtf was that brown stuff?

Ben Dover lashes back at the do-gooders....tells 'em to shove it.....Ben Dover sez: "Bend over." He does not want gays to be considered an oppressed minority. He's honest about it.

How will these contractors prove that they do not discriminate against the GBLT community? Will every contractor go out and hire a token gay, just to meet the quota? Who will judge compliance....gays?

This argument is far from being about a simple, black and white issue....good intentions can sometimes backfire.

Hey, a hi-profile lesbian jock disclosed too much information and she suffered the consequences.....that's a pity, but let's not go overboard on the unenforceable remedies, just to feel good.

By: Loner on 1/21/11 at 3:32

Thank you, Ben Dover for crediting yours truly with fertilizing the forum.....I'd like to take credit for that, but modesty will not permit it. I brought in a couple of horseballs, for the roses, but that's about all.

By: Loner on 1/21/11 at 3:39

Don't go away mad, Ben.....we need sparring partners....you can wear protective headgear....we won't call you a sissy. Righties are hard to find these days at the NCP LTE crowd. Please consider staying and hashing it out, like in the old days.

By: yogiman on 1/21/11 at 3:42

I fully understand what you are talking about being considered an idiot, BedOver, but I just use my old philosophy and consider the source and ignore it. Too many of them out there to attempt trying to educate them.

By: dargent7 on 1/21/11 at 3:43

Now we've got: "A sweaty lumberjack goes into a gay piano bar...."
You know those lumberjacks are always up to no good.