Letters to the Editor

Wednesday, June 17, 2009 at 12:47am

Health corporations make him sick

It is very unlikely that President Obama will be able to produce a health plan to cover all Americans since the giant corporations have launched a campaign to try to defeat anything that he tries to do that includes health care. They are willing and proposing to use hundreds of millions of dollars to defeat him with tainted political ads which will be mostly lies as they were in the election trying to defeat Obama.

The outcome of health care reform likely will result in the people not faring much better than they are now. The corporations will pretend to have the people’s interest foremost when in reality their only concern is to keep the "golden goose" in their corner.

What looks so bad is that democratic Sen. Chris Dodd is entrusted with writing the bill along with several other influential senators who have interests in the industry too. Dodd’s wife sits on the boards of four giant health care companies and pulled down a cool $300 million plus in payments and stock awards the last fiscal year.

Members of both parties who are charged with writing a health care reform bill have ties to the health industry including democrats Jay Rockefeller, Tom Harkin and Dodd, and Republicans Judd Greg, Tom Coburn, John Kyl and Orrin Hatch.

Looks like very much to me that the fox is in charge of the hen house once again. It also looks like the corporations have plenty of money to spend and that we have a committee that may be willing to take it.

Once again, don't expect too much since we are the only industrialized nation in the world that doesn't have a decent health care system, but we have many millionaires and even billionaires as a result and likely will be shafted by Congress once again.

C.W. Clouse, 37209

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306 Comments on this post:

By: idgaf on 6/17/09 at 4:55

Good letter dooley, its about time you recovered your sanity and tell it like it is style.

I will add its about control, insureing the illegals and those that can afford it but won't spend the money.

If they are going to "reduce costs" why will it cost trillions and why is medicaid ready to go bust and the VA in the shape its in?

This is a full court powergrab to control many aspects of our lives giveing us no hope and choice of makeing our own decsions and being all we can be.

We of all the people in America should know better with our foray into TnCare and the economic crisis it was headed for under government control and fantasy top shelf health care. The oposite will be true, we will get rationed care like they get in Canada and the UK. People denied care because of their age , expence or other reasons.

By: Captain Nemo on 6/17/09 at 4:57

Good morning.

You maybe correct, dooley.

By: Captain Nemo on 6/17/09 at 6:34

Is idgaf putting much more into letter than dooley intent?

By: daKine7 on 6/17/09 at 6:38

Captain:
id has an ego larger than myself, for example.
I always enjoy his take on system mechanics.

By: Captain Nemo on 6/17/09 at 6:43

That was me take on id's post. He does have a way at looking at a sunrise and calling it Midnight.

By: Captain Nemo on 6/17/09 at 6:45

That should be my take..not me take. But you know what I mean.

By: house_of_pain on 6/17/09 at 6:54

I thought you were practicing for 'Talk Like a Pirate Day', Nemo.

By: Captain Nemo on 6/17/09 at 7:00

arrrr it does look that way, house.

By: TH on 6/17/09 at 7:05

It is not the giant corps the prex is up against, it is those with insurance already. This bill costs $65,000 for every person it adds to care. Better answer: define criteria establishing who it is that doesn't get care, and then create health centers or tax deductions or welfare that cater to them. Also don't cut the pay of doctors and expect there to be more doctors. If you need more doctors, nurses, equipment, and hospitals, to care for more people, pay for them. This idea of "spreading things around" just means you are taking care from some and giving it to others, it is a zero-sum game -- less than a zero-sum game if you regulate and destroy compensation.

By: Loner on 6/17/09 at 7:13

Excellent letter, Dooley. It is sad, but true, we Americans have the best government that money can buy.

The financial services lobby called the shots....until the Bush meltdown last September. The war lobby still dictates foreign policy. The health care lobby continues to frame the debate and limit the parameters of the reform discussions. Regardless of the topic, there probably is a well-financed lobby making sure that the special interests are catered to at the expense of the public interest.

This regrettable situation will remain in place as long as the politicians are able to legally take money from the special interest groups. Since these self-serving office holders are in charge of campaign finance reform, there is little hope for meaningful reform, the situation will only get worse over time.

By: Captain Nemo on 6/17/09 at 7:22

Good morning Loner. Keep an eye on the weather. There is a strom system to the west that may cause you trouble later.

By: daKine7 on 6/17/09 at 7:24

Captain: Word to the wise...always run your posts thru "Loner's" spell and vernacular check. It's saved me many days of humiliating embarrassment.

By: house_of_pain on 6/17/09 at 7:26

No mistake, d7. Strom Thurmond is headed Loner's way.

By: daKine7 on 6/17/09 at 7:29

Cpt.: I think "Strom" Thurmond is dead.

By: Dragon on 6/17/09 at 7:30

People like the Dodds, who earn millions of dollars a year, do not need health insurance. Unfortunately, the government will make it illegal not to.

When they talk about the 46 million people who are uninsured, subtract out the 12 to 15 million illegal aliens and probably the same number for the American born children. So, instead of 46 million, it is closer to 16 million.

By: daKine7 on 6/17/09 at 7:31

LaMaison...you old rascal...you beat me by 3 minutes on that joke. I want a re-count.

By: slacker on 6/17/09 at 7:33

An F-5 Strom Thurmond means total destruction.

By: daKine7 on 6/17/09 at 7:39

Loner: Can I get a signed copy of your "Spell and Vernacular Check for Dummies"?
You can do more to habilitate a dangling participle than anyone I know.

By: Loner on 6/17/09 at 7:42

Oy! What is it this time, D7? Using terms like "vernacular" sounds rather loner-like; people who live in crystalline houses should not hurl invectives or stones, IMHO. Blame the nuns and the New York State Board of Regents, don't blame me.

Thanks for the heads up on the weather, Cap'n Nemo; mackerel scales and mare's tails - tall ships carry low sails....aaaaar!

House, I'll keep an eye out for vindictive, racist centegenarians with a Southern drawl.

By: Loner on 6/17/09 at 7:53

Signed copies are available, by way of barter; that keeps the IRS out of the transaction. What do you have to trade, D7?

Dangling patrticiples are symptomatic of autoerotic asphyxiation, right? I leave that kinky stuff to the Kung-Fu guys.

By: dargent7 on 6/17/09 at 8:13

I'm with you...those pesky "Sisters" were always finding something to rap my knuckels with. I should of filed a lawsuit. I still have a restraining order against "Sisiter Mary Ann", obviously an alias.

By: Loner on 6/17/09 at 8:18

I'm no expert on health care, but it seems to me that we need to relieve US employers of the burden of providing health care insurance coverage for their employees. This would make us more competitive, in a global sense, in terms of manufacturing and services.

Since only a fraction of the population is gainfully employed at any given time, in any society, it seems that a system designed to serve everyone, as opposed to serving only the employed, is more pragmatic, humane and equitable.

The question is, do we, as a society, want guns or do we want butter? It's time to choose.

Any "amens" on that?

By: gdiafante on 6/17/09 at 8:22

The answer: Guns. Then, I'll shoot you and take your butter.

Parkaaaaaaaayyy

By: Loner on 6/17/09 at 8:30

Yes, D7, you should have filed a lawsuit. They all had phony names, usually goofy ones...Sister Mary Redemptia, Sister Mary Calasanta and Sister Mary Amabilis come to mind. I often bitch about them, but I do owe them much, seriously. I now appreciate their sacrifice, I must have been especially problematic...mea culpa, mea maxima culpa.

By: Dragon on 6/17/09 at 8:31

I disagree, Loner. The 20% of my health insurance premium paid by the company is part of my compensation. True, that would increase my taxes since that would be taxable income (a proposal being considered).

The biggest downside is that there would no longer be a group rate and a group policy. If all employees in a company plan were required to buy individual policies, then the insurance industry would grow a thousandfold. Of course, that would be a huge increase to the total healthcare cost.

The CBO is estimating that Obama's $1 trillion dollar proposal really would cost $1.6 trillion dollars and cause approximately 17 million people to lose employer provided insurance. Oh well, what's another trillion dollars in debt?

By: Loner on 6/17/09 at 8:33

LOL, Gd.

By: chiefpayne568 on 6/17/09 at 8:34

Apparently, even Obama's volunteers aren't sure what to support when it comes to health care reform.

Obama’s Volunteers Find Health Plan Harder Sell Than Candidate

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=washingtonstory&sid=aRcF4fftIg1s

By: chiefpayne568 on 6/17/09 at 8:38

Doesn't look too good for Obama's reform

Discord grows over public health care plan
http://www.usatoday.com/news/health/2009-06-15-publicplan_N.htm

But it looks like Congress is going to try to pull it out of their hat (or SOMEPLACE) anyway.

Biggest Shift in U.S. Health Care May Emerge in 45-Day Sprint
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=washingtonstory&sid=aX3ZJGJyc6.I

By: chiefpayne568 on 6/17/09 at 8:47

Man, I sure don't want to EVER go to Gary, IN! If people can't even care enough to pick up phone to call 911 after someone is killed - that's not a place I want to be!

Store Clerk Murdered; Customers Keep Shopping
http://cbs2chicago.com/local/Convenience.Store.Clerk.2.1047612.html

By: Blanketnazi2 on 6/17/09 at 8:47

http://www.lifescript.com/Quizzes/Personality/Do_You_Have_A_Passive_Aggressive_Personality.aspx

By: Loner on 6/17/09 at 8:48

Good points, my draconian friend. I was trying to present an argument against burdening US employers with health insurance costs, I did not suggest throwing all workers to the wolves, so to speak.

Personally, I favor a single-payer system, but realistically there is not enough support for that here in the US, IMO. Perhaps a public option competing with the private option is more likely to emerge from the debate.

The US Public Health system (federal, state, county and local) could be expanded to provide the "public option". Special government-provided scholarships for medical students could become a mechanism for filling the ranks in this expanded public health network.

By: gdiafante on 6/17/09 at 8:48

Chief, do you even read the links you post?

Obama's volunteers find health plan a harder sell because it's more complicated than "Vote for Obama"...and the strategy is not fully in place, not because they doubt the reform. Jeez...

By: pandabear on 6/17/09 at 8:51

chief:
You've got to find a new song

By: gdiafante on 6/17/09 at 8:53

I think that allowing Pharmaceuticals to advertise medications directly to the public and the domination of HMO's are two very large contributors to the bass ackward system we have now.

Now, the public feels they are educated enough from seeing one commercial to provide a self-diagnosis...and spineless physicians comply. Of course that's if you can do that through your PCP and don't need to see a specialist...

By: Blanketnazi2 on 6/17/09 at 8:53

g, he doesn't have time to read them. he has to meet his quota of 50 links a day. that way he can convince everyone that Obama is "bad."

By: pandabear on 6/17/09 at 8:53

blanket:
That's a good one.

Hey, did you ever figure out which weapon to buy ?

Did you look at "The Judge" ?

By: pandabear on 6/17/09 at 8:55

"By: chiefpayne568 on 6/17/09 at 8:47
Man, I sure don't want to EVER go to Gary, IN! If people can't even care enough to pick up phone to call 911 after someone is killed - that's not a place I want to be!"

That's nothing chief.
There's dead people been there for years,
especially running for office...

By: Loner on 6/17/09 at 8:56

I got stranded on the interstate running through Gary, IN, while hitch-hiking across America, back in the seventies. It was a dismal and uninviting place then, sounds like nothing has changed. Elkhart, however was much nicer...they build sturdy and affordable saxophones there.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 6/17/09 at 8:56

i wish i could afford The Judge. i think i'm going to get a 20 gauge shotgun. sound right to you?

By: gdiafante on 6/17/09 at 8:59

You don't have to tell me about the legal system Blanket...the best money can buy...oh...wait...you're talking about a gun...

Nevermind

By: chiefpayne568 on 6/17/09 at 9:03

Panda,

Or voting for those running for office.

By: chiefpayne568 on 6/17/09 at 9:08

Can someone tell me where the signs of this robust growth are?

Obama Says ‘Robust’ Growth Will Prevent Tax Increases
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=akaJVOByDsHg

By: gdiafante on 6/17/09 at 9:11

Read the article and you'll get your answer, Chief.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 6/17/09 at 9:11

that, THAT judge was out of my price range too, unfortunately.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 6/17/09 at 9:11

lol, g!

By: Loner on 6/17/09 at 9:16

I like the semi-auotmatic shotgun called the "Street Sweeper"; but I've been told they have problems with the stock breaking under stress. A short barreled, pump-action 20-ga with OO buckshot should provide some defense....a dog is a good idea too, they provide the early warning system that is vital to home defense

By: chiefpayne568 on 6/17/09 at 9:23

Gdia,

I did...didn't see squat about signs of a robust growth. Care to enlighten me?

By: slacker on 6/17/09 at 9:25

Wasn't Gary Indiana that democratic candidate for president, that got caught fooling around, on the ''Monkey Business?

By: dargent7 on 6/17/09 at 9:25

Loner: Elkhart, IN was where my 1st and 2nd wives were born...(married the same girl twice). Thanks for bringing up that nightmare.

By: dargent7 on 6/17/09 at 9:26

Slacker: No, Gary, IN was where The Jackson Five were from.