Letters to the Editor

Monday, July 13, 2009 at 12:00am

Little help?

Coming up, what is certain to amuse will be the entertainment industry overwhelming having supported left wing liberal government policies and candidates.

Especially when despite their declining revenues, undermined by prolonged mass violations of copyright law in addition to the global recession, they learn that their political cronies currently bailing-out the financial, construction, automobile and alternative energy industries have no interest in helping them at all.

Tony Gottlieb, 37077

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Filed under: City Voices
Tagged: tony Gottlieb

286 Comments on this post:

By: revo-lou on 7/13/09 at 12:14

Blah, blah, blah!

Surely the CP can find better letter writers than this.

By: bfra on 7/13/09 at 1:42

Quality doesn't seem to matter any more! However, when those State & Metro employees get wound up on their computers, paid for by taxpayers, the comments will start rolling in. Not intelligent comments, mind you, just anything to keep from working, for which they are being paid for.

By: Captain Nemo on 7/13/09 at 3:29

Good morning

Tony Gottlieb......Needs a lot of help?

By: Captain Nemo on 7/13/09 at 3:46

Verbal Cartoon


Picture a man by the name of El Grump'o id'o standing on the dock screaming at three ships sailing off to discover a new passage to the Indies. "When will you fools learn that the world is flat and you will fall off?" "This is a waste of my tax money!"

By: dargent7 on 7/13/09 at 5:03

Does "Dooley" and myself have to write ALL the LTE's to this paper?

By: 2476 on 7/13/09 at 5:53

Arg>> let's hope not, because your posts are worse than the one we just read.

By: house_of_pain on 7/13/09 at 6:06

I thought that was a requirement of your parole, d7.

By: HenryB on 7/13/09 at 6:18

My thought when I read the letter: Why is it the GOP rails against liberal Hollywood while the Republican "savior" was a dismal actor in B movies, while conservatives in California flocked to an actor to save them from a liberal governor (look how THAT turned out) and while Tennessee GOPers still haven't scraped the Thompson bumper stickers off their pickups?

By: Kosh III on 7/13/09 at 6:29

And let's not forget that the Actor-turned-politician started with the Republican George Murphy who sang and danced his way into the Senate. Pretty appropriate since Reagan and Thompson were both better at song-and-dance than in positive accomplishments.

By: HenryB on 7/13/09 at 6:56

Excellent point. And, by the way, I forgot Fred Grandy, who played Gopher on the Love Boat. He served four terms as a Republican congressman, elected by the conservatives of Iowa.

By: Dragon on 7/13/09 at 7:26

Thank goodness California only sends the best; Feinstein, Boxer, Pelosi, Waxman, etc.

We can all agree that California is the home and source of many fruits and nuts.

By: dargent7 on 7/13/09 at 7:39

LaMaison: I beat that 1st murder charge on a technicality. I claimed being "White" was a motivating factor in running those school kids over. And that Nun bus driver flipped me off. Insanity is a good defense. Ask Mary Winkler.

By: chiefpayne568 on 7/13/09 at 8:11

I am so grateful I do not live in California! The state is sinking like the Titanic and the Hollywood elite represent the band playing to calm the passengers while the boat sinks!

Worse, the majority of politicians in that state represent incompetent officers running around doing everything they can to calm the passengers while not having a clue what to do about the situation.

Wonder if we need to play Taps while California sinks?

By: chiefpayne568 on 7/13/09 at 8:18

Well, looks like we have another president saying we have a long way to go in the war against terrorism. Wonder if the groups against the war will start harrassing him like they did his predecessor.

Taliban pushed back, long way to go: Obama


By: BenDover on 7/13/09 at 8:19

Tony Gottlieb? That's Monk, right?

By: BenDover on 7/13/09 at 8:27

Hollywood... a very interesting case study. Nowhere in our country is there a greater example of the income gap. You've got a very small number A-List Tier 1 actors, moguls and producers who make all the bucks and everyone else lives on their crumbs. It's not really a merit based system as much as it is a system of dynasty... and the people who hit the jackpot usually suffer from wealth guilt because they really didn't do anything to earn their own money; so they project that across the country and want to force normal people who actually do work hard and earn their own money into a warped myopic ideal of government imposed charity to assuage their own guilt.

By: MamaG on 7/13/09 at 8:27

LOL, Ben!

Today's letter isn't very good, is it?

By: chiefpayne568 on 7/13/09 at 8:29

Well, I guess we'll see about his predictions about the market. I hope he's right but I just do not think so!

Lunch with the FT: Larry Summers

"Onward, then, to the toughest economic challenge Summers faces today: the recession. Here, Summers turns sombre: “I don’t think the worst is over ... It’s very likely that more jobs will be lost. It would not be surprising if GDP has not yet reached its low. What does appear to be true is that the sense of panic in the markets and freefall in the economy has subsided and one does not have the sense of a situation as out of control as a few months ago.”"

By: chiefpayne568 on 7/13/09 at 8:36

Speaking of Hollywood Moguls - I guess even they are getting concerned.

Media Moguls Twitter Over Slump, Not Takeovers, in Sun Valley

By: BenDover on 7/13/09 at 8:36

Just like what started this recession, the fear of what the Obama and an equally left-wing Congress might do has our economy paralyzed. Until Obama pulls a Clinton and makes a hard right turn on fiscal policy or until we shake up the congressional leadership... well, the ship's going to continue to take on water.

By: dargent7 on 7/13/09 at 8:41

To all those California bashers: Ah, I also really dislike warm ocean breezes, ocean sunsets, tropical palm trees, 75 degree temps all year round, bikini clad girls, tans, open mindedness, being in a Blue state, sand and surf, fresh produce, convertibles, the A-1, San Diego, Santa Barbara, Santa Monica, San Francisco, Napa Valley and Sonoma for wine tasting. Yes, here in Nashville is obviously the bomb. What was I thinking?

By: gdiafante on 7/13/09 at 8:42

Poor letter, even poorer posts. Chicken little's of the world unite.

By: BenDover on 7/13/09 at 8:46

Chief... a good refutal of the Obama op-ed economic spin piece here:


It's consistent with what I've said here before except they seem to see the doubling of our money supply to match the deflation as a not-so-good thing. I think it could turn into one of the smartest fiscal policy moves ever.

By: chiefpayne568 on 7/13/09 at 8:50


What's funny is, it's mainly a psychological thing - a confidence thing - and that part doesn't seem to be addressed as far as I can see.

BTW, Obama says the stimulus is working as intended.

Obama Says Economic Stimulus Plan Worked as Intended (Update2)

By: BenDover on 7/13/09 at 8:51

I pledge $10 to the 'send dargent back to California -- bus ticket' fund.

By: BenDover on 7/13/09 at 8:54

The only substantial thing the stimulus has been used for is to shore-up state government short-falls. In laymen's terms; that means a legion of unnecessary bureaucrats have been able to keep their jobs at the expense of the private sector.

By: chiefpayne568 on 7/13/09 at 9:00


Good article and it specifically targets the lack of psychological confidence I was suggesting too.

I still suggest the doubling of our money supply isn't a wise idea...but I guess we'll see in the long run.

But like I said, a really good article.

By: chiefpayne568 on 7/13/09 at 9:02


And the wasted money could have been used MUCH better. Frankly, I think if they had declared a moritorium on taxes for all Americans, it would have stimulated the economy to the nth degree. Unfortuantely, that isn't in Obama's playbook...so we'll have to wait to see what the flip-side of that does.

I frankly see the US following the path California is going down now.

By: slacker on 7/13/09 at 9:03

Ben, dargent considers himself a ''surfer dude''.

By: chiefpayne568 on 7/13/09 at 9:03

FTA: "If the Senate doesn't pass a bill to cut global warming, Democratic Sen. Barbara Boxer says, there will be dire results: droughts, floods, fires, loss of species, damage to agriculture, worsening air pollution and more."

Not to mention Boxer losing her mind if it fails to pass. LOL

Boxer faces 'challenge of a lifetime' on climate change bill

By: slacker on 7/13/09 at 9:04

Big Kahoona dargent.

By: chiefpayne568 on 7/13/09 at 9:08

Ok...let's just add INSULT to injury while we're at it!!!

GM blasted on move to drop Stillwater palladium and rhodium supply contracts

FTA: "General Motors' decision to drop its palladium and rhodium supply agreement with Stillwater Mining, while maintaining palladium supply contracts with Russian and South African mining companies, has prompted outrage from Montana Gov. Brian Schweitzer and Stillwater executives."

By: BenDover on 7/13/09 at 9:14

"And the wasted money could have been used MUCH better. Frankly, I think if they had declared a moritorium on taxes for all Americans, it would have stimulated the economy to the nth degree. Unfortuantely, that isn't in Obama's playbook...so we'll have to wait to see what the flip-side of that does."

I don't disagree, Chief. It's apples and oranges though. We doubled the money supply under TARP and that money was used to shore-up the banking and financial sector and for our investments we have an interest in the industries. I think that since we did this during a substantially deflationary adjustment then it will not result in inflationary pressure.

The stimulus is a huge spending bill to be spent on a left-wing wish book of social programs and political rewards. As I said... it is yet largely unspent except for the money states have used to make up for their own budget shortfalls. They are trying to issue debt to pay for it but nobody's buying and in fact the plan has received a no-confidence vote in the world because other countries are no longer even wanting to hold our debt at the rates we were previously paying.

I agree... a tax cut would have been a better and faster way to stimulate the economy... a payroll tax holiday for the worker contribution of FICA would have been a huge and immediate stimulus but that didn't allow them to use this 'crisis' to justify the vast expansion of government they wanted to do.

By: chiefpayne568 on 7/13/09 at 9:15

Ok...so NOW they are worried about the cost of illegals. LOL Took them long enough to get worried about it. Of course now, it MAY be too late to worry about them!

LIMIT the services provided???!!! They should DROP all services provided except one...transport back to their country of origin!

Illegal immigrants again in the budget spotlight
The economic downturn has activists pushing for a measure that would limit the services Californians provide.


By: BenDover on 7/13/09 at 9:20

Boxer's sky is falling. We need to send her a little green hard-hat with a picture of Al Gore's head on a chicken-little body.

By: brrrrk on 7/13/09 at 9:25

Captain Nemo said

"Tony Gottlieb......Needs a lot of help?"

Maybe a fine product of the Tennessee school system?

By: chiefpayne568 on 7/13/09 at 9:31


All too true. The crisis is in fact a way for them to get passed thru Congress and enacted into law various programs that they have been wanting for years. The problem is, we are hardly in a sufficient financial position to finance everything they want to do...yet they continue to push for them.

It's like they know we don't have the funds to pay for it but they just don't care, as long as their agenda is passed - with no thought of future generations having to pay for these programs.

By: gdiafante on 7/13/09 at 9:32

Conditioning Wrap-up


I went to the practice Saturday and Budish is huge. Seems like the ACL is fine, he should be someone to watch.

By: BenDover on 7/13/09 at 9:40

Oh... they know exactly how they we are going to pay for it, Chief. They are going to force a crisis that will leave them no choice but to substantially raise taxes... which, interestingly, will continue to reduce their revenues by creating an increasingly worse climate for business and production. Evidently they don't teach economics at Harvard Law school... or more-likely they teach static-pie zero-sum economics. It's a lawyer's mentality to be sure.

By: brrrrk on 7/13/09 at 9:48

Ben, are you one of those guys that believe that it's the wealthy that creates our jobs? All hail Capital!!!

By: slacker on 7/13/09 at 9:53

brrrrk, who do you think creates jobs?

By: gdiafante on 7/13/09 at 9:53

Plant had THE best voice in hard rock. Doubt me? Listen to Led Zeppelin Live at the BBC.


By: chiefpayne568 on 7/13/09 at 9:54


And, given that the costs involve will doubtless continue to escallate and the tax increases will continue to increase and the revenues will continue to decrease, what do you predict will be the final outcome of this process, assuming the general public will have insufficient will to alter or reverse this trend?

By: bfra on 7/13/09 at 9:55

Put CA down all you feel like! It is a beautiful State from top to bottom and at least they have some politicians that are in the process of ending " ANCHOR babies" and closing "social services" benefits for illegals. More than I can say for TN!

By: chiefpayne568 on 7/13/09 at 9:56


Exactly...it IS the wealthy that create jobs in this country!

By: dargent7 on 7/13/09 at 9:57

ChiefP & BenD: Classically trained in world economics, religious studies, and corporate affairs. According to these two, if the tail wind is blowing right, GW Bush was a great President, misunderstood by a dumbed- down America, and the war in Iraq was necessary. No, make that war essential to our country's survival. Oh, and we "won". Obama inhereted an economic "surplus", a world renowned stature, a country beloved by all. It's just sad he's screwing it all up due to his vast Harvard education. (Harvard wouldn't even let any of this board near it's campus) Did these two even complete High School? But, day after day, post after post, they've got it ALL figured out. And BenD, I'll take the $10., NO checks.

By: brrrrk on 7/13/09 at 9:58


"brrrrk, who do you think creates jobs?"

First of all, how is capital created? I assume that you believe that without capital there are no jobs. Yet I know of at least 6 small companies (myself included) that started up with no capital whatsoever.

By: chiefpayne568 on 7/13/09 at 10:00


I have no problem with the state area specifically. It is a beautiful state...but living there would cost more than I would be willing to pay for such a beautiful location.

BTW, you say that the politicans are "in the process of ending " ANCHOR babies" and closing "social services" benefits for illegals" - well, they haven't done it yet. Worse, they have far more social services and benefits for illegals than TN does.

More to the point, instead of losing all social services and benefits for illegals, they are simply reducing these. As broke as California is, I would think they would want to drop all benefits for illegals period.

By: chiefpayne568 on 7/13/09 at 10:04


Ok...so you started with no capital whatsoever. How many people did you hire at that time? What did you use to purchase supplies?

Once you got your business going, did you make a profit? After the profit, did you finally hit a specific point at which you required more help and started hiring people?

Sorry to tell you, but once you started pulling in a profit and started hiring people, you aand your business became one of the rich.

By: chiefpayne568 on 7/13/09 at 10:07


Sorry. Meant to put rich in quotes: "rich"