Time to pay the piper… and the drummer?
People that play instruments in recording sessions want royalties now along with being paid for their work when they do it. Kind of like a worker assembling a car and the guy that purchased that car having to pay that worker every time they drive it.
A better analogy is the fact that people advertise products on a radio station to sell them and pay the station for the advertising. Now songwriters and musicians want radio stations to play their music helping them sell their songs.
Belmont University in a study found that, “The music industry in Nashville creates 20,000 direct jobs and 15,000 additional jobs and generates $6.8 billion annually for the economy.” Radio and TV stations are vital partners in that music business. Without commercial radio, songs would not be heard and sold at stores and on Web sites.
I say enough is enough. Radio and TV stations have been bled too much for too long paying royalties. It is time for the pendulum to swing in the right direction and make record companies pay for the stations to play and advertise their songs or at least allow them free playing rights if the stations want be so generous.
Don't forget without music stations the music industry would collapse.
George Reynolds, 37205
Send correspondence via e-mail to letters@nashvillecitypaper.com
CRAP!
Well, well here we go.
Mr. Reynolds so far as we know, Lincoln Davis isn't planning on any music during his campaign for reelection, so you can have him on your 100% talk radio station.
For those of us on the copyRight, the music industry collapsed years ago when everyone began downloading theirs for free. But back then I don't recall your radio and TV stations doing any bleeding.
All I remember are leveraged buyouts and very short playlists.
Don't care much for this topic. Can't wait to see how long it takes for the usual posse of morons to call for Obama's impeachment, complete with relevant psychotic links from the like minded.
Good morning
What does Geooooorge gain by not paying the artist?
Anyone else remember the Payolla scandals?
It is reverse Payola.
daKine7: Convict Bush and Cheney!!!!!!!!
:)
Well, I like royalties and apparently the radio and television stations seem to think it's OK because they pay them. I got $680 for a song on 20-20 in 1985 that only played 60 seconds - 10 seconds feature and 50 seconds background. Gee, that was a nice pay day. Now if I can just get my songs on the radio for 60 minutes a day! Sorry folks. Can't agree with you on this one. I'm the benefactor of royalties. And remember, there are also book and movie royalties. Why don't you guys, along with George Reynolds try to do something about Obama. That's more pressing. After all, when he's through with your taxes, social security, investment funds and just plain hard working americans, you won't have to worry about paying for anything. You'll all be on his - O'man's royalty check list, ie, welfare!
Kosh III: That's the "normal" response. I'm waiting for Click, Clack & Cluck to post links that Obama was born in Kenya, therefore, isn't legally President of the US or Commander-in-Chief, therefore, cannot order US troops to do anything. Oh, and we 'won" in Vietnam and Iraq, and will soon "win" in Afghanistan....they must be sleeping in late today. But, rest assured, they'll be here.
I tend to agree with George. Paying royalties to the artist, as the owner of the intellectual property, is one thing but, paying royalties to everyone who had a hand in producing the work is another.
Not all actors get royalties, not all musicians should either.
Happens all the time Dragon. The music industry is lagging, despite the figures Georgy posted. Everyone's looking for their piece of the pie, but no one figured that the technology would change so fast, now they're scrambling to keep up.
Well George, while I agree with some of your post, when you say
"Don't forget without music stations the music industry would collapse",
it's the same both ways.
You can't have a music station with no music.
The writer have to get paid. They have few revenue streams
to recover royalties from; radio, tv, and now the internet.
Hardly any comes from "real time" club play.
The performers, however, make their real money from
live performances. Although digital and over the counter sales
also bring in money, most of that is basically to "get the word out"
so that people buy tickets to the live performances.
They don't deserve one penny of royalites for having their
records played on the airwaves. If anything, they should pay
to have their "stuff" on the radio. However, the radio couldn't
sell "ads" to their customers if they had no listeners, so the
"stuff" they play on the radio and the listeners they get in return
determines the amount the radio station can charge for their ads,
so maybe they should pay for the music. After all, it costs a lot
of money to make those recordings.
Don't forget that "Payola" was the common form of payment
to the radio stations for playing a performers music.
...of course, they don't do that anymore....right ?
"By: slacker on 7/15/09 at 6:31
It is reverse Payola."
No. Reverse Payola is aloyaP.
daKine7
But at least after a long and brutal struggle, we did manage to win in Grenada.
You're wrong Panda, it doesn't cost that much to make recordings anymore. You can use a Mac, Pro Tools and some MIDI software and make a recording that would stand up against any big studio production. That's part of the problem with the music industry.
Also, other than Country, you don't really need radio like you used to. Like I said, it's all changing and people are scrambling to keep up.
I got the impression that George was referring to the "background" musicians rather than the artist whose record it is. For example, if George Strait releases a song, should the drummer get a royalty every time it is played?
It's really more about those studio musicians who play on jingles, theme songs, etc. As the industry burns, they're just trying to get their piece.
I rarely listen to the radio anymore. For every song played that I like, there are 3 or 4
that I don't care to hear. Too bad KDF changed format.
gd, did the Preds score with the Guite signing?
I'm thinking so House. He's a cheap Fiddler that has more upside. You'll see him head the PP, until Ellis gets here in a couple of years. We shall see....we still need that top six scorer though...
gdia.
Do you own all that equipment ? Do you know how it works ?
Have you used it ?
It's real easy to "set up shop" in your house, but it's not cheap
and it still sounds like caca if you don't know what your doing.
It's the "know what you're doing" part that is especially expensive.
The problem with the industry is that they keep thinking
it all has to go through them. It doesn't.
The rules have changed and they haven't.
They won't.
Most of them are followers and imitators and have no
idea how to even spell "creativity".
Yes, Panda, I do.
The recording industry's decline began before downloading, it started when recording equipment became available at cheap prices. This allowed publishing houses, independent record labels and yes, even the artists themselves to record their own music in the basement, spare room or wherever you could fit a computer and synthesizer.
For those who needed it, they already had the knowledge.
sid, what size of shoe do you wear?
Sorry.
Sounds like a nice general statement, but there was no
decline caused by cassettes or cd recording machines.
These were mostly used as pre production equipment and seldom
as mastering equipment.
People have always tried to bypass the top studios and
mastering labs and, for the most part, have ended up going
back there to make the finished product.
Panda, you can now buy mastering software too. Even the top studios are phasing out the archaic 48 track consoles. You get the same thing in a MAC. It's all recorded to a hard drive now.
The times they are a changing.
Speaking of bleeding someone dry. I have to tell you, if I were in this group, I'd be retiring and moving!
House bill to hit millionaires with 5.4 pct surtax
http://www.reuters.com/article/marketsNews/idUSWEN055320090714
You forgot to add that Nixon was a hero, D'argent.
Republicans unveil chart depicting bureaucratic nightmare of Dem government-run health care.
http://docs.house.gov/gopleader/House-Democrats-Health-Plan.pdf
Nixon was a disgrace.
Obama: Unemployment likely to keep ticking up
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/07/14/AR2009071401269_pf.html
Dick Clark said, its got a good beat and you can dance to it.
Yeah, but he said that about Brahms...
He also coined: yasa..yasa..yasa
They should just turn this whole royalties issue over to Clapton and let him decide.
Well he is God...
Obama mulls rental option for some homeowners-sources
http://www.reuters.com/article/marketsNews/idUSN1429265720090714?rpc=77
Blanket, either she's got small feet, or a big mouth...
Obama to say some lost auto jobs not coming back
http://www.reuters.com/article/marketsNews/idUSWNA899320090714
well, i'm a little full of myself this morning 'cuz i'm jacked up on excess coffee and i listened to Green Day on the way in - lol!
Some of those country singers could lecture on Pro Tools.
New Green Day? I was listening to "Holiday" last night...great song.
Slackerdamus may have hit it right on this one!
Clinton aims to retake foreign policy center stage
http://apnews.myway.com/article/20090715/D99EOJRO1.html
Yes slacker, there is a feature that allows for vocal tuning...
yes it is, g. i was listening to American Idiot on the way in.
nazi, Sid had a big hit with Nessun Dorma.
Requires wearing a tuxedo.
Great album. I like "Novacain" almost as well as "Holiday"
tuxedo? ok, i'm still trying to visualize that...
chief, Hillary was wearing her white pantsuit yesterday, that means shes pissed.
Well, she shouldn't have fallen down, slacker. I wonder if she has Life Alert?
Well, I guess it's a moot point if the states approve abortion or not if the new healthcare bill actually has provisions to provide abortions on demand. It would in fact create a Federal Choice Act by fiat.
Obama Health Care Plan Will Provide Taxpayer-Funded Abortion on Demand, Congressmen Say
http://www.cnsnews.com/public/content/article.aspx?RsrcID=51029