Letters to the Editor

Sunday, July 19, 2009 at 11:00pm

Number 1 and Number 2

The daily revelations of the secrecy and misdeeds of Dick Cheney and Donald Rumsfeld without any constitutional authority to do any of it reminds me of the Austin Powers movie adventures with Cheney and Rumsfeld closely paralleling "Dr. Evil" (for Cheney, note the actual resemblance) and Number 2, his comrade in crime.

[We’ll leave the role of Mini Me to a confused President Bush who was not even cognizant of anything that was going on.]

This Bush mob has stained our country forever and their comedic evil can in no way can ever be considered funny as the Austin Powers movies were intended to be. Enough has already been revealed that war crimes trials should on the table, but it seems that the American people don't stand much of a chance at receiving justice.

President Obama should insist that the justice department proceed in that direction. If not, it will be hard to proceed into the future with hope or any kind of standards if the crimes of the past are allowed to evaporate for the sake of moving ahead.

C.W.Clouse, 37209

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267 Comments on this post:

By: Captain Nemo on 7/20/09 at 1:58

By: Blanketnazi2 on 7/20/09 at 2:29
or give it to me and i'll shove it back in and abort it.

LMAO

By: chiefpayne568 on 7/20/09 at 2:01

Nemo,

I didn't say so in the beginning because I wanted to see how long you'd go with your ignorant scenarios. We are trained to deal with situations that come up. Granted, there is the unexpected and we deal with it.

What I don't understand is why you feel the need to try to dehumanize the military. We are people same as you...we just have a very difficult job to do.

By: slacker on 7/20/09 at 2:04

nazi, when you are wandering in the wilderness, you gonna spill some seed.
Its in the book.

By: slacker on 7/20/09 at 2:05

chief, are you gonna demand to see Obama's BC?

By: Captain Nemo on 7/20/09 at 2:08

We would call back to HQ, have them contact a local villager and have THEM go to the baby. The terrorists, not getting any Americans, would be unlikely to kill a simple villager. That would just tick off the villagers at them. check every diaper
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How brave that must be. Let a native get kill. No wonder they want us out.

As for as me having bloodlust. I get mine at the movies. It is all make believe blood. And the actors get up and does the next the next movie.

By: chiefpayne568 on 7/20/09 at 2:09

slacker,

Why? Bottom line is, Obama is the CINC. I will go where I'm told to go. Don't need to see the BC.

By: chiefpayne568 on 7/20/09 at 2:11

Nemo,

We wouldn't go up to a baby anyway. It's not considered polite nor is it considered prudent for us to touch or deal with kids without the parents there. It has a tendency to make the parents and the rest of their family and village upset with us. That is their culture. So you see, no matter what, we would not be able to go up to the child anyway.

By: slacker on 7/20/09 at 2:11

chief, at least make him show you his drivers license. geez

By: slacker on 7/20/09 at 2:12

The baby has left the building!

By: Captain Nemo on 7/20/09 at 2:13

By: chiefpayne568 on 7/20/09 at 3:01
Nemo,

I didn't say so in the beginning because I wanted to see how long you'd go with your ignorant scenarios. We are trained to deal with situations that come up. Granted, there is the unexpected and we deal with it.

What I don't understand is why you feel the need to try to dehumanize the military. We are people same as you...we just have a very difficult job to do.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Sure you did chief.

If I was trying to dehumanize the military I would do just that.

It is the toy soilder that I go after.

By: chiefpayne568 on 7/20/09 at 2:14

Slacker,

I didn't vote for him...so if he's illegitimate, then I can truthfully say I didn't put him into office. By the same point, if I follow his orders, I'm obeying what is generally accepted as orders from the CINC...so I'm doing what I'm supposed to be doing. Win/win.

By: chiefpayne568 on 7/20/09 at 2:15

Nemo,

Then isn't it a shame that you failed to dehumanize me...while dehumanizing yourself in trying to get me to kill a baby.

By: slacker on 7/20/09 at 2:15

chief, ok carry on .

By: chiefpayne568 on 7/20/09 at 2:16

Slacker,

I try to carry on as much as Ms. Chief will let me.

By: Captain Nemo on 7/20/09 at 2:20

chief you always go and hide behind real soilder when you are found to be such a weenie.

By: chiefpayne568 on 7/20/09 at 2:22

Nemo,

Ah Nemo, you always revert to such tactics when you lose an argument. It's just your way. Sorry but you lost again.

I am a real soldier whether you choose to accept that or not...have been for 23 years now, 19 of which has been spent in the National Guard.

My job has been and alway will be to protect you and other civilians and to fight your wars...at least until I retire.

By: Captain Nemo on 7/20/09 at 2:24

BTW chief.

You have not posted to many useless post while you were engaged with me. lol

You actually had to have a conversation today.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 7/20/09 at 2:25

talk about delusions of grandeur.

By: Captain Nemo on 7/20/09 at 2:25

By now

By: Captain Nemo on 7/20/09 at 2:29

Last time he was a Marine. Next week he will be something else. A Jedia Knight?

By: chiefpayne568 on 7/20/09 at 2:43

Nemo,

I still got my fair share in:

Governors worried by healthcare bill costs
Say states could get new Medicaid burden

http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2009/07/20/governors_balk_over_what_healthcare_bill_will_cost_states/

By: chiefpayne568 on 7/20/09 at 2:45

Speaking of Obama's BC -

Mike Castle on PeeBo's Birthcertificate.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9V1nmn2zRMc&e

By: dargent7 on 7/20/09 at 2:45

Awue! Chief: You are NOT protecting my rights! Got it? Get it? That was done in 1776. It's over now. All that we're doing now is rationalization for power and greed. Some sick, pathological need to divide and conquer. The enemy is us. We, the USA, create all these dynastys, then they fall out of favor, and then we invade. America is BANKRUPT. Time to reel it in. Time for you to get a real job. The war games are over.
It's like Joe Namath going around saying, "God, I hope we win". Hey Joe, you won.
It's over. Let's move on. Because people like you cannot move onto a better society, ain't my problem. You are NOT fighting any longer for my freedoms. We won 230 years ago. Get a life.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 7/20/09 at 2:47

chief likes to hide behind the bible and our constitution in order to excuse his behavior.

By: chiefpayne568 on 7/20/09 at 2:48

Oops!

Barack Obama's gaffe: seeking greater inefficiencies

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0709/25165.html

By: chiefpayne568 on 7/20/09 at 2:51

Dargent,

Really? Ok so if we just disband the US Army, Navy, Air Force and Marine Corps, you and yours will be A-Ok, right? No need for protection because you have your rights given to you in 1776.

Good thing that wasn't the thinking of the previous generation in 1940...else we might be speaking German or Japanese right now.

By: chiefpayne568 on 7/20/09 at 2:54

Blanket,

You misunderstand. I make NO excuses for my behavior. I am what I intend to be and am quite content to be so. I need no justificaiton by the Constitution nor the Bible. I am happy as I am, thank you.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 7/20/09 at 2:55

but on the other hand you say you just follow orders.

huh.

which is it?

By: Blanketnazi2 on 7/20/09 at 2:56

in other words, if you were ordered to waterboard an Afghani, would you do so?

By: chiefpayne568 on 7/20/09 at 2:57

Boy talk about government inefficiency!

GAO: FDA can't estimate its own budget needs

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D99I9O3O0&show_article=1

By: chiefpayne568 on 7/20/09 at 2:59

Blanket,

Ordered to waterboard an Afghani? To get information to save US lives? You bet.
Ah but that can't happen anymore, can it?

Well, we could always take them prisoner. Oops...not if we don't read them their rights...they'll just get cut loose.

So...question then.

Is there any reason you can give why we should take prisoners in the first place if we can't get information from them and we can't hold them prisoner for long before they are cut loose to try to kill us again?

By: Blanketnazi2 on 7/20/09 at 3:00

so, just go ahead and kill them, is that what you're saying?

wow.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 7/20/09 at 3:01

that's sadistic.

By: chiefpayne568 on 7/20/09 at 3:02

Hummm...now why did the Taliban do this? We've said we won't torture their people. You'd think they'd play nice.

'I'm scared I'll never hug my girlfriend again': Taliban release video of kidnapped U.S. soldier begging for freedom

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1200699/Obamas-war-crisis-Taliban-release-video-kidnapped-U-S-soldier-begging-freedom.html#ixzz0Lprz9SLf

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1200699/Obamas-war-crisis-Taliban-release-video-kidnapped-U-S-soldier-begging-freedom.html

By: Blanketnazi2 on 7/20/09 at 3:02

murder is murder chief, whether it's war, the death penalty, etc. it's still murder. but yet you oppose a woman's right to choose.

By: chiefpayne568 on 7/20/09 at 3:03

Blanket,

Not if they are shooting at you...one shot one kill. Just make sure you shoot to kill. Not sadistic...that's war.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 7/20/09 at 3:04

whatever you need in order to excuse committing murder, chief.

By: chiefpayne568 on 7/20/09 at 3:04

Blanket,

You confuse murder with self defense. If someone is trying to kill you, is it murder if you kill them first?

And you're darn right I oppose abortion...because the kid isn't doing anything to her.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 7/20/09 at 3:04

eye for eye was old testament. you can't use it only when it's convenient, chief.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 7/20/09 at 3:07

chief, abortion is not just a form of birth control. you are showing your willful ignorance. i've posted for you the work that docs such as Tiller did yet you choose to believe that all abortions are birth control.

you killing someone whether war or not is MURDER. go check your New Testament where Jesus says to turn the other cheek.

By: chiefpayne568 on 7/20/09 at 3:07

Blanket,

Heh, I don't need excuses. When one's life and the lives of his fellow soliders are on the line, you do what you have to to make sure everyone goes home.

Call it what you will...but remember it IS government sanctioned and approved by the POTUS and Congress...and defacto by the American people.

Enjoy the concept.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 7/20/09 at 3:07

hide behind it chief. apparently that works for you.

By: chiefpayne568 on 7/20/09 at 3:10

Blanket,

Apparently we are having a miscommunication. I am saying nothing about an eye for an eye.

I am saying that if they try to kill us, we make sure they go before we do...that is how a war is fought.

As for abortion being a form of birth control, I know it is not...just as I know it HAS been used as such...not all the time but it has happened. My point is, it is rare for an abortion to be required to save a mother's life....it's just not THAT common...so there must be other reasons other than saving a mother's life that it is being done. Reasons which compared to the loss of a human life are ridiculous.

By: chiefpayne568 on 7/20/09 at 3:11

Hope they can save this guy! And yeah, if a commando group can go in, wipe out all the terrorists and save the guy, I would have NO problem with that.

Soldier's Idaho town kept mum on Taliban capture

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20090720/D99I4BGG0.html

By: Blanketnazi2 on 7/20/09 at 3:12

what about turning the other cheek, chief?

By: chiefpayne568 on 7/20/09 at 3:13

Blanket,

I am a realist...I hide behind nothing. I am a US soldier. If you don't like what soldiers do in war, then tell your Congressman to stop it.

We do the job...you don't like it, cancel it. You hold the power and control...we don't, remember?

By: Blanketnazi2 on 7/20/09 at 3:13

apparently going into a foreign country and committing murder does not bother you. keep praying to your Guy in the Sky and leading your arrogant life. it'll come back to you.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 7/20/09 at 3:14

go kill other people's families so that Bush can make a nice fat profit off the oil. go ahead - obviously it doesn't bother your conscience in the least.

By: brrrrk on 7/20/09 at 3:15

chiefpayne568 said

"Hummm...now why did the Taliban do this? We've said we won't torture their people. You'd think they'd play nice."

Uhhh, when did we say that? After we already did it? Seems that horse is already out of the barn.... Pandora's box has already been opened... the genie is already out of the bottle... need I go on.

By: house_of_pain on 7/20/09 at 3:17

You guys say what you want about chief, but I don't doubt that he's a
Dedicated Individual Conditioned to Kill. ;)