Letters to the Editor

Wednesday, February 10, 2010 at 10:43pm

Questions in need of answers

Why is [Attorney General] Eric Holder making decisions on who/how and where terrorists are to be tried while engaed in an act of war against us? That is the President's job. Why doesn't the President have a consistent policy of trial? How do you try some [Gitmo detainees] in civilian courts and others in military courts?

Why should we [or President Obama] be willing to spend $200 million just for security on one trial when it was never done before and is an unnecessary expense? Why would we subject our citizens to acknowledged threats that require $200 million for security?

Why when a terrorist wants to plead guilty as long as he/they are put to death, do we deny such a last request, and then try him in civilian court with rights of a citizen and lawyers paid for by taxpayers?

Why have a trial at all when Holder and [press secretary Robert] Gibbs have already determined they will be found guilty and executed?

Frank Briamonte, Nashville

 

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215 Comments on this post:

By: dargent7 on 2/10/10 at 11:54

Absolutely agree. For some insane reason, the US gov't wants to "showcase" our wonderful and terrific system of justice to the whole world. At a price tag of $200-$400 million.
Why not just do a photo-op of OJ Simpson or Robert Blake on the golf course showing how we treat murderers?

By: eastnashville37207 on 2/11/10 at 5:22

Holder, Gibbs and even Obama have already held the trial on this man and announced he was guilty. A jury is now tainted because of their comments and it will be thrown out if it doesn't go to a military trial. Maybe that was what they wanted?

By: dargent7 on 2/11/10 at 6:13

Yogiman: From yesterday....I could be wrong (scholars Loner or gdia should know this), but a POTUS has to be born on American soil, as in one of the 50 States. Not a territory like Puerto Rico or Virgin Islands.

The "birthers" are going after Obama's birth cert., saying he wasn't born in Honolulu, HI, but Kenya. Or Indonesia. Or in a hut in Zambowi. I think it's common knowledge his father was Kenyan.

That's why McCain slipped into "natural" US citizenship: it was time of war (1934?)and he was born on a US carrier in the Panama Canal Zone. Or a spaceship from Vulcan.

By: house_of_pain on 2/11/10 at 7:08

The price tag for these trials is too hefty. Let's do this the old fashioned way.
Tie them up & toss them in a lake, and if they sink, they're innocent...

By: Captain Nemo on 2/11/10 at 7:12

Good morning

Maybe this can answer your question, Mr. Briamonte

The decision to charge Mr. Abdulmutallab in federal court, and the methods used to interrogate him, are fully consistent with the long-established and publicly known policies and practices of the Department of Justice, the FBI, and the United States Government as a whole, as implemented for many years by Administrations of both parties. Those policies and practices, which were not criticized when employed by previous Administrations, have been and remain extremely effective in protecting national security. They are among the many powerful weapons this country can and should use to win the war against al-Qaeda.

http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2010/02/03/holder-to-republicans-stop-being-such-watbs-about-miranda-warnings-and-mukaseys-decisions/

As for the other three whys seem to be fillers just to take up space, maybe others can answer what seem to me are childish questions.

By: Captain Nemo on 2/11/10 at 7:15

Good morning house. It does seem that is the conservative answer for everything.

By: Loner on 2/11/10 at 7:17

Good morning, Nashville!

Frank is our beloved Idgaf, if I recall. Great letter, Id, don't expect me to be able to answer any of those "seven questions from hell". That's above my pay grade.

Are these rhetorical questions or anwerable questions? Let's see....

1. Q: "Why is [Attorney General] Eric Holder making decisions on who/how and where terrorists are to be tried while engaed in an act of war against us?" Answer: Because that is his job, Id. The president has delegated authority tp the AG, nothing new or different there.

2. Q: "Why doesn't the President have a consistent policy of trial?" Answer: I dunno. Maybe because each case is diferent?

3. Q: "How do you try some [Gitmo detainees] in civilian courts and others in military courts?" Answer: Again, I dunno. Maybe they use military courts when waterboarding and enhanced interrogation techniques were used to obtain the self-incriminating testimony. Civilian courts do not admit evidence obtained under duress.

4. Q: "Why should we [or President Obama] be willing to spend $200 million just for security on one trial when it was never done before and is an unnecessary expense?" Answer: Security would certainly be needed, I don't know about that 200 million dollar figure, sounds like hype.

5. Q: "Why when a terrorist wants to plead guilty as long as he/they are put to death, do we deny such a last request, and then try him in civilian court with rights of a citizen and lawyers paid for by taxpayers." Answer: If we kill them they become martyrs, Id. Lawmakers are ex-lawyers, they are just spreading the wealth around for their colleagues to enjoy.

6. Q: "Why would we subject our citizens to acknowledged threats that require $200 million for security" Answer: Because this is fear-based governance, Id. The right-wing talk-show hosts are all fear-based demagogues as well.

7. Q: "Why have a trial at all when Holder and [press secretary Robert] Gibbs have already determined they will be found guilty and executed?" Answer: Good question. Everyone has already passed judgment on these guys. Nobody calls them "suspects", in the MSM or in Washington, DC, they are referred to as "terrorists". This whole thing is grand theater.

Well, there it is; I attempted to answer these 7 unanswerables.

One more thing, Id, Bush and Cheney should have considered all of the items that you ticked off in your LTE, before making their hasty decision to bring terror suspects to a US naval base located on illegally occupied Cuban soil. Those two bozos thought that this would tweak Castro's nose, while grandstanding for their neocon handlers. Please, let us not blame Mr. Obama for creating this expensive, embarassing and unsolvable problem. Like the financial meltdown, the Gitmo problem is solely the work of Bush-Cheney, not Obama-Biden.

D7, thanks for the kind word, but I think that the birther thing is somebody's scam...you know, send us money, so we can get justice. If this was valid and legit, we would have known by now, I think. Obama was the most vetted presidential candidate in history.

By: dargent7 on 2/11/10 at 7:26

Yogiman: There you have it. "Loner" says you are full of it.

By: Captain Nemo on 2/11/10 at 7:31

That explains the rambling letter. I was confused as to some of the question, but now I know who wrote the letter. lol

Now let’s move on to something serious or not.

By: Captain Nemo on 2/11/10 at 7:43

Chicago earthquake.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704140104575057332026134118.html?mod=WSJ_hpp_MIDDLENexttoWhatsNewsSecond

By: dargent7 on 2/11/10 at 7:47

Cpt. Nemo: The earthquake in Chicago came in handy for all you husbands out there. When you ask your wives, "did the earth move?", they don't have to lie this time, because it really did.

By: Captain Nemo on 2/11/10 at 7:52

lol dargent

Yea baby.

By: Captain Nemo on 2/11/10 at 7:59

Latest Data Hints at a Recovery in World Trade

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/02/11/business/economy/11econ.html

Maybe?

By: Captain Nemo on 2/11/10 at 8:03

A Reply to the Attacks on Climate Change Science
The science is sound and the glaciers are shrinking, says the Union of Concerned Scientists.

http://www.greentechmedia.com/articles/read/a-reply-to-the-attacks-on-climate-change/

By: dargent7 on 2/11/10 at 8:06

I think when House askes his wife, "How was it for you?" and she says, "the earth moved", he'll take personal responsibility.

By: Captain Nemo on 2/11/10 at 8:13

An immediate danger

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/8510250.stm

By: Captain Nemo on 2/11/10 at 8:18

Ron Paul vs. Sarah Palin for the Soul of the Tea Parties

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jane-hamsher/will-palin-and-the-neocon_b_456824.html

By: govskeptic on 2/11/10 at 8:40

Maybe by having the trial in Nashville we can get the shiny
new Federal Court House Built that's been promised for
so long. It would also give the Government time to build a
case that they might possibly win!

By: gdiafante on 2/11/10 at 8:43

"Yogiman: There you have it. "Loner" says you are full of it."

I concur...about him being full of it. Maybe he doesn't understand that Hawaii was admitted to the union in 1959...before Obama was born...I've heard rumors that they're still in the union...

By: Dragon on 2/11/10 at 9:13

"For some insane reason, the US gov't wants to "showcase" our wonderful and terrific system of justice to the whole world."

In doing so, they elevate these terrorists to global dimensions and give them much more importance and potence than they should. Even one minor crotch-bomber gains worldwide infamy.

By: Captain Nemo on 2/11/10 at 9:20

Courage is of no value unless accompanied by justice; yet if all men became just, there would be no need for courage.
Agesilaus the Second

By: gdiafante on 2/11/10 at 9:21

I suppose you're right...someone with intent to blow up a plane isn't really important...

Note to Dragon: you can get a 27 pack of Huggies at Walgreen's that comes with a $3 off coupon.

By: gdiafante on 2/11/10 at 9:22

Beware me...Beware ME!!!

-Ides of March

By: Captain Nemo on 2/11/10 at 9:26

gdia, Dragon has a problem in understanding reality. It must be his master’s fault in his training.

By: dargent7 on 2/11/10 at 9:40

gdia: "Vehicle"...best song of the late 70's. BEST!

By: house_of_pain on 2/11/10 at 9:41

"No, beware of ME!"
-dog

By: Blanketnazi2 on 2/11/10 at 9:47

good morning, everyone!

By: Captain Nemo on 2/11/10 at 9:51

Good morning Blanket.

By: gdiafante on 2/11/10 at 9:53

I've had great leaders killed, you eat your own poop.

-Ides of March

By: dargent7 on 2/11/10 at 10:01

"Vehicle"..."I'm your vehicle, take you where ever you want to go"....

By: house_of_pain on 2/11/10 at 10:01

"Both you guys are way off...I'm the one to worry about."
-stranger bearing gifts

By: dargent7 on 2/11/10 at 10:03

Nazix2: Did you tell your husband, " the earth moved"?

By: Blanketnazi2 on 2/11/10 at 10:05

dargent, i don't have one of those!

By: DustyU on 2/11/10 at 10:05

Dusty's grandson here - He is recovering slowly - doctors said it will be at least a week before they let him wake up fully

By: Blanketnazi2 on 2/11/10 at 10:06

Hi, Dusty's grandson. Thanks for giving us updates! Have you been able to talk with him at all?

By: Blanketnazi2 on 2/11/10 at 10:07

dargent, i have a clean record. no marriages, no divorces, no kids, no abortions! LOL

By: Captain Nemo on 2/11/10 at 10:08

Good to hear Dusty gandson

By: MamaG on 2/11/10 at 10:09

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Later, taters!

By: sidneyames on 2/11/10 at 10:09

"Why have a trial at all when Holder and [press secretary Robert] Gibbs have already determined they will be found guilty and executed?" asked by Frank B.

BECAUSE. Just because. Now don't ask any more "childish" questions (according to captain -- " As for the other three whys seem to be fillers just to take up space, maybe others can answer what seem to me are childish questions."

Frank, your letter is mirroring the questions being asked by millions of Americans and quite frankly even some people who don't live here.

I say we have the trials in Nashville. We can set up camp in the new Convention Center - that'll sell out those dates. We can have Broadway blocked offf from, oh let's say Lyle down to the river and can have booths set up for souvineer sales. Things like "Ima bomber and youratarget" buttons sold by the representatives of the "innocent victims who bomb us" to us, the nasty ugly Americans who want our country safe.

All kidding aside, the cost to the Feds and NY City is too high to do this. A military trial is what you should get if you are a war criminal.

What scares me most is the White House bippity boppity bouncy ball decision making. First it was "dis" then it was "dat". And now it's "de other" and NY city offficials and state officials DON'T WANT IT THERE. Did the President or ERIC Hold 'em hear any of their No's.?

No.

By: DustyU on 2/11/10 at 10:09

no - not really awake enough - they told me when the heart itself is operated on your body has no strength at all until the heart is healed enough to start doing its job

By: MamaG on 2/11/10 at 10:09

Ooh! Glad to hear he made it through the surgery and is recovering now. Still keeping him in our thoughts and hope you, grandson, are holding up well too.

By: sidneyames on 2/11/10 at 10:10

Hi, DustyU's grandson. Our prayers are with him and your family. Tell him the CP good witch said hello.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 2/11/10 at 10:10

yes, how are YOU doing?

By: sidneyames on 2/11/10 at 10:10

Good morning Nashville. Good letter. Remember the dumbest questions are the ones never asked. Isn't that what we tell our children? And then they grow and ask them and we call them "dumb questions".

By: MamaG on 2/11/10 at 10:11

Sidgaf

Blanket, your record is the same as mine! LOL

By: house_of_pain on 2/11/10 at 10:11

Thank you for the Dusty updates.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 2/11/10 at 10:11

lol, MamaG!

By: sidneyames on 2/11/10 at 10:11

I didn't see news on Chicago earthquake. What magnitude? Where?

By: Blanketnazi2 on 2/11/10 at 10:11

Mama, how's the BS this morning?

By: DustyU on 2/11/10 at 10:12

I'm hanging in - don't want to lose him