Letters to the Editor

Monday, February 15, 2010 at 11:37pm

Not withholding judgement

In the wake of a recent 5-4 decision by the U.S. Supreme Court [Citizens United vs FEC] regarding the right of corporate political expenditures, the public wonders once again if our courts are politically motivated in their decisions. Such cases test the "indefeasible" constraint of Constitutional law and define the cornerstones of our democracy and its rule of law.

Here in Tennessee none perhaps more demonstrative of this concern occurred recently in the case of John Jay Hooker vs. The Board of Professional Responsibility. Hooker, an attorney, unrelentingly has challenged the constitutionality of the State Supreme Court's right to their seats on the bench under the retention-election statute, where they run opposed. In his appeal, the Supreme Court refused to recuse itself in matter.

The BOPR, as the Supreme Court's appointed agent suspended Hooker's law license for what it termed "frivolous litigation." Common sense dictates that extreme self-interest held by members of the Supreme Court would require their recusal from such a decision yet they declined to withdraw and quashed Hooker's civil right to challenge their authority.

With public trust of politicians and attorneys at nearly the bottom of any ranking, I am reminded once again that judges are a combination of the two supposedly venerable professions.

Tony Gottlieb, 37077

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139 Comments on this post:

By: Loner on 2/16/10 at 5:47

Good morning, Nashville!

John Jay Hooker is alive and well. The guy is 80 years old and still causing trouble for the establishment, The man's resume is certainly checkered, but nobody can say that Hooker has not lived life to the fullest.

Long live John Jay Hooker!

By: house_of_pain on 2/16/10 at 6:15

Since I'm not familiar with this matter, I must recuse myself.

By: dargent7 on 2/16/10 at 6:31

Great LTE, judges are all lawyers, the deck is stacked against the defendent unless they're loaded, almost everone charged with a crime that pleads, "Not guilty" did it, so let's move on.

Anyone catch "Judge Judy" lately? She was always a female dog but now she's meaner than a cobra. I think her face lift has clouded her judgement. At least Satan asks to hear your side of things.

By: Captain Nemo on 2/16/10 at 6:58

Good morning and hello JimmyY.

From yesterday.

By: house_of_pain on 2/15/10 at 11:29
Nemo keeps odd hours. He may be a spy or something. I think he has a flying car.
He hit a hawk while driving once.
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First off I do not have a flying car and the hawk hit me.

Second I took the bird to Walton’s Puddle and it recovered. Last seen it was flying off into the morning sun.

And no house it did not burn up flying onto the sun.

By: Captain Nemo on 2/16/10 at 7:02

I have a question. If we did away with the lawer would we go back to dueling or sunrise or what?

By: bfra on 2/16/10 at 7:15

Loner - John J probably has more knowledge of the law than all the Supreme Court judges have in their little fingers. That is what scares them so much.

By: house_of_pain on 2/16/10 at 7:17

Nemo, what do you call 50,000 lawyers at the bottom of the ocean?
A good start.

By: Captain Nemo on 2/16/10 at 7:20

JimmyU tell Dusty I said hi.

By: Captain Nemo on 2/16/10 at 7:23

By: house_of_pain on 2/16/10 at 7:17
Nemo, what do you call 50,000 lawyers at the bottom of the ocean?
A good start.

I call it pollution.

On the other hand I have so good friend that are attorneys.

By: Captain Nemo on 2/16/10 at 7:27

By: Captain Nemo on 2/16/10 at 7:02
I have a question. If we did away with the lawer would we go back to dueling or sunrise or what?

CORRECTION

s/hb/ dueling at sunrise or what.

By: bfra on 2/16/10 at 7:30

d7 - Judge Judy does have a very good saying "If you tell the truth, you don't have to have a good memory."

By: govskeptic on 2/16/10 at 7:33

Good point on the dueling Captain! I'd say the odds would be about
the same with either system with a slight edge to the trained
defendant againist the "educated" only attorney/judge. The Judicial
System has a life long project of protecting itself and the
establishment as they would like to see it evolve!

By: Loner on 2/16/10 at 7:39

I know one thing, the term "Family Court" is not accurate or descriptive, such courts ought to be called, "Courts of Character Assassination". Judges in Family Court seem to enjoy the public airing of everyone's dirty laundry....while fondling themselves under their robes.

By: Funditto on 2/16/10 at 7:40

poor tish, she just can't get away from this sorted past.

By: Loner on 2/16/10 at 7:45

Think of the billions that could be saved by doing away with family court.

Impossible? Not really; society got along for many millenia without such kangaroo courts. Let's make it simple and universal. the kids belong with the mother in about 90% of the cases, especially if the father never married the kid's mom...such dead beats should have zero standing in court. This so-called "father's rights" movement is little more than disgruntled, male, A-holes, organizing against women in general.

By: bfra on 2/16/10 at 7:47

Don't feel sorry for tish, she used being John J"s wife & ex quite well to live a very posh life and never worked.

By: Captain Nemo on 2/16/10 at 7:52

By: Loner on 2/16/10 at 7:39

......"while fondling themselves under their robes".

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You have been peeking Loner?

I don’t watch any of the so call “Judge Shows”, because of the self indulging Courts of Character Assassination", that goes on both sides of the Bench. It is like watching a diluted Maury Povich or Jerry Springer Shows.

By: bfra on 2/16/10 at 7:57

Nemo: I like Judge Joe Brown. Some of these little punks, wearing their pants around their knees, piles of bling & baby daddies 1-4 times should be MADE to watch his show.

By: Loner on 2/16/10 at 7:58

Yes, I did peek, Nemo. It was not a pretty sight.

Judges are politicians, plain and simple. No more. No less.

Bigoted people elect bigoted judges, 'twas ever thus.

By: JimmyU on 2/16/10 at 8:03

Good morning everyone
I see the infamous Captain Nemo has joined us this afternoon :)

By: bfra on 2/16/10 at 8:04

Most judges are there, not for What they know, but Who they know!

By: bfra on 2/16/10 at 8:05

JimmyU - Must be about 3PM there. Did you hear from Dusty?

By: JimmyU on 2/16/10 at 8:07

bfra - yes - no change from yesterday - still touch and go - doctor's telling my nephew that dad probably won't wake up at all for another week if he makes it :(

By: bfra on 2/16/10 at 8:09

He has a lot of people pulling for him and sending the very best of wishes.

By: Loner on 2/16/10 at 8:10

What will JJ Hooker's legacy look like?

Will he be remembered as a briliant jurist or a political gadfly....a briliant businessman or a con artist....stingy or generous benefactor.... supremely confident or arrogant.... cultured or crude...short-sighted or visionary?

What say you, Nashvillians?

By: JimmyU on 2/16/10 at 8:13

thank you
temp this afternoon is 104 F - a mild day really :)

By: Captain Nemo on 2/16/10 at 8:14

Hello Jimmy!

I am afraid that it is more notorious, than famous. lol

Tell Dusty when it wakes up, we all say Get Well Soon!

By: bfra on 2/16/10 at 8:14

Loner - I would say the better of all you suggested, but then I have know him most of my life. I voted for him when he ran for Governor and I honestly believe our State would be much better, had he won.

By: JimmyU on 2/16/10 at 8:15

Captain - yes thank you, I will
Dad has a very high regard for you sir

By: Captain Nemo on 2/16/10 at 8:16

Loner if we ever get together again, remind me to tell my John Jay Hooker stories.

By: sidneyames on 2/16/10 at 8:17

Loner said "This so-called "father's rights" movement is little more than disgruntled, male, A-holes, organizing against women in general".

Loner, my family spent $150,000 in a Texas family court. My step daughter was the loser. In the end, we paid dental and medical plus child support until she was 19. When she was 20, she called and asked us to pay for 8 of her teeth with cavities.

Upon calling the dentist we found her "lovely mother" had not taken her to the dentist (5 miles from her house) since she was 12. Told kid that "we don't have money to take you". Then I said, "you didn't need money, just motivation to get to dentist office".

I can't tell you how happy I was when my step daughter found out her father "paid child support" and her "A$$ hole mother" never let her know it. Of course her mother had 3 baby daddy's and 5 kids with all receiving child support and welfare.

Stepdaughter is doing well, in spite of her jerk face, lying, cheating, hate-filled mother. And yes, we paid dentist bill when she was 19. Could NOT deny her healthy teeth, even though that good for nothing mother of hers didn't care about her. So sometimes, the baby daddy does the right thing and still gets the shaft.

By: house_of_pain on 2/16/10 at 8:18

I've been at work since 5:30am...I'm more concerned with coffee than Hooker's legacy.

By: sidneyames on 2/16/10 at 8:19

JImmyU, sleep heals. He will wake up. We want to talk to him; we love him. So just stay positive and tell grandson we are all praying and saying "get well".

By: JimmyU on 2/16/10 at 8:20

hp - coffee > nectar of the gods :)

By: Loner on 2/16/10 at 8:20

Best wishes, Jimmy. Dusty was a relative newcomer here, but he quickly made friends. He is a smart and articulate poster. You seem to be a chip off the old block.

By: JimmyU on 2/16/10 at 8:21

sidneyames - thank you

By: JimmyU on 2/16/10 at 8:22

loner - thank you - people tell me I'm the spitting image of him except my skin is ebony and his is tan :)

By: sidneyames on 2/16/10 at 8:25

By the way, Loner, I was not disagreeing with your post in general. Just venting my frustrattion at the TEXAS court system for railroading my husband. We used up his union annuity on that mess. The child was the innocent one, along with her daddy. Her mom was vindictive (had 5 different lawyers). BUT step daughter loves her dad and me in spite of the mother's antics and lies.

By: Captain Nemo on 2/16/10 at 8:26

JimmyU, I am honor that he does. I have the same feeling for him too.

I enjoy our talks. Maybe we can get together something and have lunch.

By: JimmyU on 2/16/10 at 8:28

Captain - yes he would enjoy that :)
Also he mentioned you wanted to come to europe on vacation - let us know when and we can help you out with places to stay and see :)

By: Captain Nemo on 2/16/10 at 8:31

I well take you up on that offer Jimmy.

By: JimmyU on 2/16/10 at 8:33

Captain - definitely sir

I have to go now but my nephew should be stopping by later to update you on dad's status

bye :)

By: Captain Nemo on 2/16/10 at 8:40

Nice chatting with you, Jimmy.

By: Loner on 2/16/10 at 8:42

Sorry to hear that, Sid.

By: Captain Nemo on 2/16/10 at 9:09

“The leading rule for the lawyer, as for the man of every other calling, is diligence. Leave nothing for to-morrow which can be done to-day.” -Abraham Lincoln

“It is better to be a mouse in a cat's mouth than a man in a lawyer's hands”
-Spanish Proverb

“Make crime pay. Become a Lawyer.” -Will Rogers

“I don't think you can make a lawyer honest by an act of legislature. You've got to work on his conscience. And his lack of conscience is what makes him a lawyer.”
-Will Rogers

“The good lawyer is not the man who has an eye to every side and angle of contingency, and qualifies all his qualifications, but who throws himself on your part so heartily, that he can get you out of a scrape.” -Ralph Waldo Emerson

“[A] lawyer without books would be like a workman without tools.” -Thomas Jefferson

By: sidneyames on 2/16/10 at 9:11

Thanks Loner; usually I leave it buried or "behind" but today's LTE brought it up. At least now we have healthy relationship with daughter and never have to speak to mother in TEXAS (on her 5th - or is it 4th?) Who cares?

Going to work now. Scared of streets, ice, snow! Hope I make it.

By: Captain Nemo on 2/16/10 at 9:15

"Boston Legal: Ivan the Incorrigible (#2.22)" (2006)

Denny Crane: Alan, you know, one thing you sometimes forget is, no matter how hard your day, no matter how tough your choices, how complex your ethical decisions, you always get to choose what you have for lunch.
Alan Shore: Daily, I am amazed at your inexhaustible ability to just live.
Denny Crane: It's either that or die.

Denny Crane: Nothing worse than having your heart crushed and your pride stung all on the same day.
Shirley Schmidt: My God, we have the fastest water cooler in town. I feel like such a fool.
Denny Crane: Ah, forget it. If anyone knows about being a fool it's Denny Crane

By: dargent7 on 2/16/10 at 9:17

bfra: Best lawyer joke: "A lawyer and Jesus were walking along a path and Jesus proclaims, "Look, there's the truth". The lawyer says, "Let me organize it for you".

Also, in Michigan we said, "It's so cold today I saw a lawyer with his hands in his own pockets".

By: bfra on 2/16/10 at 9:23

That's good d7. I am one that just doesn't remember jokes. Used to try and would always blow the punch line. So I just gave up.

But, I still say, if Hooker had been elected instead of that jerk Sundquist, the State would be in better shape.

By: Captain Nemo on 2/16/10 at 9:26

"Boston Legal: Deep End of the Poole (#2.24)" (2006)
Alan Shore: Denny Crane!
Denny Crane: Alan Shore!
Alan Shore: Leaders of men!
Denny Crane: With bulleyes on our asses!

Alan Shore: I have no defense, Denny. I broke the law.
Denny Crane: So?
Alan Shore: So, usually in these situations I go with jury nullification. Persuade the jury to focus on the moral, not the legal, but here it makes no difference! What I did was unethical, immoral, illegal...
Denny Crane: You're being so negative.
Alan Shore: I need you to close.
Denny Crane: What do you mean?
Alan Shore: I'll try the case, but at the end I need somebody else to stand before the jury and say, "Let the man go."
Denny Crane: And you want me to do that?
Alan Shore: There was a day when all you had to do was say your name.
Denny Crane: That's still all I do.
Alan Shore: Denny, I find in life, and I know you must, that craft doesn't matter so much if one is a big enough star. You've spent your entire life getting away with who and what you are, because you're a star!
Denny Crane: Big star. I blow solar flares out of my ass.
Alan Shore: I need your start power here. I need you to stand up before that jury when we're done and tell them, "Let Alan Shore go!"
Denny Crane: Really?
Alan Shore: I have a gut feeling it's my best shot.
Denny Crane: Let him go! Denny Crane. I'll do it.