Letters to the Editor

Wednesday, March 3, 2010 at 8:04pm

This is a real pain

As the debate rages on in Washington whether "ObamaCare" is the right way to go or even affordable, several frequent visitors to neighboring hospitals made unexpected visits.

Former vice president Dick Cheney, who has more frequent flyer miles racked up with all his hospital stays, had "chest pains" recently. He was admitted immediately to one of America's finest hospitals, receiving around-the-clock care. Who's picking up the tab so Mr. Cheney can "rest comfortably"? The American taxpayer — many of which have no health benefits.

For more than 40 percent of Americans who feel tighness or shortness of breath, they have to work through it. Unless they want a $1,500 emergency room bill for a false alarm.

Former Sen. Bob Dole, who's also on the dole, was admitted for complications from a prior knee surgery. The U.S. taxpayer paid for his new "knee," and all follow-up treatment.

All of Congress and their families have free access to world class health care. It's  available 24/7. Is that why they can't comprehend the plight of half of Americans who cannot see a doctor without the fear of filing bankruptcy?

Paul D'Argent, 37209

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269 Comments on this post:

By: Blanketnazi2 on 3/4/10 at 10:37

indeed, bfra.

By: Kosh III on 3/4/10 at 10:39

Regarding the "poor" comment and Cheney

Perhaps because being rich and powerful, cheney can get special consideration special rights and favors from goverment and corporations
he can block anything which might help a poor person to get ahead, instead pushing policies which deliberately keep some people poor and a good source of cheap uncomplaining labor
and of course, the poor who have nothing, often get the blame when the rich do not get all their whims fulfilled.

By: DustyU on 3/4/10 at 10:41

bfra Libya is not really a problem just a red flag for the ruling families to wave when they want more weapons and technology from the US to help control the population

By: Loner on 3/4/10 at 10:41

Thank you bfra, I like to hunt bigger game than that squirrely ex-Marine, but I couldn't resist taking a pot shot at this semi-pro zealot....he left himself no cover and I'm in a shooting mood.....metaphorically speaking, of course.

I'm sure that Bradley and I would agree on very little, but there must be some common ground, where our ideologies overlap, albeit for different reasons.

By: DustyU on 3/4/10 at 10:43

as grandpa might say "as compared to a professional zealot like yourself?"

By: BenDover on 3/4/10 at 10:47

Hola all...

By: Loner on 3/4/10 at 10:47

Bah Dah Bing! Brian takes a shot......Loner ducks and says, "I'm on nobody's payroll."

The tension increases......cue music: (Theme from The Good, the Bad and the Ugly.)

By: Blanketnazi2 on 3/4/10 at 10:47

hi, Ben. i was hoping you'd show up.

By: DustyU on 3/4/10 at 10:48

loner that's one of grandpa's favorite movies!

By: Blanketnazi2 on 3/4/10 at 10:49

i enjoyed our conversation yesterday regarding the money flow when it comes to incarceration. i pondered it for a while and i want your take on something. if you think that police patrol is only to fill the gov't pockets with money from fines, what would you suggest for people who park illegally or speed and cause dangerous situations by doing so? what's the alternative?

By: DustyU on 3/4/10 at 10:49

loner aren't you the one grandpa said is so rabid about Israel?

By: bfra on 3/4/10 at 10:49

Brian - Lybia must pose some threats as Jimmy said they had problems with bandits from Lybia. And, Kadafi has never been known as anything, other than a "nut case".

By: Blanketnazi2 on 3/4/10 at 10:50

lol, Brian. Dusty really has filled you in!

By: slacker on 3/4/10 at 10:50

Gaddafi is calling for ''jihad'' on Switzerland. Look out for a bombardment of army knives.

By: bfra on 3/4/10 at 10:51

Loner - One of my favorite movies! Music & all.

By: DustyU on 3/4/10 at 10:52

bfra always bandits from somewhere
constant fact of life in the desert for thousands of years
agree Kadafi is nutjob
only president Reagan ever backed him down

By: DustyU on 3/4/10 at 10:55

blanket yeah grandpa has been living with me for about a year ever since I talked him into sleeping on my couch rather than on the street

By: BenDover on 3/4/10 at 10:58

With the average salary and benefit package of all federal workers exceeding $75K it's no wonder to me that we've got such a disparity between federal workers and the rest of us. It's like Edwards and his two Americas... the government insider's America and the rest of us who have to pay for it.

It's baffling to me how people are coaxed into widening this gap and further expanding government at every turn with the old 'stick it to the rich guy' rhetoric.

Easy exploitation of basic human nature, I guess. One day we'll all have cushy administrative government jobs that remove as much, or more, value from society than they add, I guess.... …oh wait.

By: bfra on 3/4/10 at 10:58

Blanke - Clint Eastwood is getting in the forum indirectly, 2 days now.

By: DustyU on 3/4/10 at 11:02

Ben 40% of the adult population of Alaska work for the state
grandpa calls it the closest thing to pure socialism possible

bfra yeah cali should have elected him instead of the governator

By: BenDover on 3/4/10 at 11:04

It's a matter of degree, bn. We're not talking about people racing through a neighborhood at 100mph... everyone agrees there should be punishment for that... just like > .15% Blood Alcohol, etc...

The vast majority of tickets are for running 80mph on the interstate in modern vehicles on modern roads with modern tires... or for marginal DUIs... or other lesser acts.

I think the punishment should match the crime... like the constitution says.

By: brrrrk on 3/4/10 at 11:05

Health care......

Our "health care system" costs us over 17% (soon to be 20%) of our GDP, doesn't cover everyone, and has (for average Americans) less than perfect results.

The Japanese health care system (which relies totally on private hospitals, doctors, and insurance companies) costs 3% of GDP, covers everyone, and has much better results than our "system".

So, where's fiscal responsibility (i.e. the GOP) stand on the issue? We all know.....

By: Loner on 3/4/10 at 11:05

Brian, grandson of Dusty U, asks, "loner aren't you the one grandpa said is so rabid about Israel?"

Does the foam around my mouth show? Sorry, i thought that my silver beard would conceal the bubly spittle. Let me grab a towel.....

Well, Brian, it's like this....we are fighting two expensive shooting wars, right at this moment, as a result our entanglement with that foreign theocracy known fondly as The Jewish State.

Israel now wants the US to attack Iran at their behest, they are crying, "WOLF!!", once again, as they did vis-a-vis Saddam's Iraq. Hey, this country is about tapped out, holy wars suck.

Yes, I reject the conventional wisdom that what's good for the Jewish State is good for the United States of America.

Certainly, what's good for NY is not always good for Tennesee, for example - yet we have been led to believe that what's good for Israel is good for each and every state within our union of states, as well as good for the country as a whole.

Of course, the firmly-held idea that Israel's national interests are identical with ours is utter nonsense.

Herzl's utopia is not working out as advertised; we need a new paradigm, now.

By: DustyU on 3/4/10 at 11:08

loner grandpa and I both agree with that
Grandpa just said you were a bulldog on the subject lol

By: Blanketnazi2 on 3/4/10 at 11:10

Ben, I don't think the "majority" of tickets are for 5-10 MPH over on the interstate. i'm going to have to disagree on that one. once again, there's a big difference between talking about a place like Smyrna where they have nothing better to do, and talking about Nashville. so you can't really say that's across the board correct.

By: DustyU on 3/4/10 at 11:15

blanket grandpa has tried numerous times using the freedom of information act to get the information breakdown on tickets and hit a brick wall. Police would not release it except in general categories like dui speeding etc. So no one except the police can really ell who they are targeting?

By: Blanketnazi2 on 3/4/10 at 11:19

specifically what sort of breakdown did he want?

By: DustyU on 3/4/10 at 11:24

blanket thing like how much over the speed limit, actual blood levels, that sort of stuff so he could get a feel for who the police were targeting

By: Loner on 3/4/10 at 11:26

Well then, wipe that foam off your pie-hole, Brian. We have found common ground.

I hope that Dusty fully recovers, I did not know that he was "on the streets", before you took him in. He seems to have maintained his dignity and his sanity, through it all.

If his wife was killed by Arab terrorists, then he is quite a man to be able to get past the rage and thoughts of revenge that anyone in that situation might feel.

I have never condoned the use of terrorism to advance the Palestinian's cause, it is counter-productive to their goals.

I can understand the frustration that the Arabs in the refugee camps in Gaza must feel...think about it, sixty years of banishment into stateless oblivion, while US-bankrolled Israel takes more of their land and builds their de facto apartheid walls ever higher.....that's gotta cause antipathy among the Arabs of Palestine and their Muslim brethren.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 3/4/10 at 11:30

Ben & Brian, i just don't see any grand conspiracy in the traffic tickets thing. i think they have a quota just so that it can be "busy work" in between calls.

By: DustyU on 3/4/10 at 11:32

blanket I don't know about any conspiracy either but when government employees start hiding information that should be accessible it makes you wonder what they are up to doesn't it?

By: bfra on 3/4/10 at 11:32

Blanket - IMO, I think Metro has a quota so Surpass(sp) can look good!

By: DustyU on 3/4/10 at 11:35

bfra maybe he should start by eating less
known joke around metro is getting between Surpass and a doughnut can get you killed

By: Blanketnazi2 on 3/4/10 at 11:35

Brian, i just think their data systems aren't that specific. they would have to create a special report and they don't have the time.

bfra, all cities have traffic quotas. my uncle is a retired detective from Chicago.

By: brrrrk on 3/4/10 at 11:36

BenDover said

"It's baffling to me how people are coaxed into widening this gap and further expanding government at every turn with the old 'stick it to the rich guy' rhetoric."

"Stick it to the rich guy" lol.... that's rich! pun intended.

What do you suggest? Shall we do away with the FDA and hand our lives over to the people that make tainted peanut butter and toys painted with lead paints? Are you going to be the first to sacrifice a relative on the alter of run amok capitalism and buyer beware free market horse sh*t? How many people need to die in order to bring a corporation to justice?

Maybe we should do away with OSHA? What's a few fingers after all. Being a railroad buff, there was a time in this country when you could tell how long a breakman worked for the railroad by the number of fingers he was missing... and the guys working in the offices generally had the most missing fingers. So how many of your fingers are you willing to sacrifice?

The preamble to the Constitution begins, "We the People".... that's us. That means, for better or worse the government (as much as YOU would choose to ignore it) is us. And yet, you would also choose to put "We the People" in the hands of the very people who have no other interest than to line their pockets. Somehow I think Paine, Jefferson, Franklin and others would look upon you as a Tory.

By: slacker on 3/4/10 at 11:38

bfra, most peoples only contact with the police, occurs with a traffic stop.
Receiving a traffic ticket does not endear the police chief to the public.
Not trying to defend the chief of police.

By: bfra on 3/4/10 at 11:39

Blanket - I don't think there should be quotas. That gives cops a push to ticket people no matter how small the violation. During that time, how many are being killed, robbed and committing real crimes?

By: Blanketnazi2 on 3/4/10 at 11:39

I want this t-shirt:

http://www.cafepress.com/+thomas_paine_human_rights_q_ringer_t,54004645

By: DustyU on 3/4/10 at 11:40

bfra true quotas just insure the money is coming in

By: Blanketnazi2 on 3/4/10 at 11:41

bfra, i said "in between calls" all jobs have the designated "busy work." i've yet to see one that doesn't.

By: Loner on 3/4/10 at 11:42

As for tickets for speeding, seat belt infractions, DUI/DWI etc. cars alreadty have the technology to report violations to a central authority that will be able to automatically ticket drivers.

Cameras at intersections can be used to issue tickets w/o human interference with the process.

Onboard Cellphone use detectors may be the next mandated tattle-tale device on all new cars.

Remote automotive disabling is already here.

Yes, it's for our own good, think of the children!

This is part of the reason why I drive a retired 1983 Postal Jeep. She knows how to keep a secret.

I gotta go now, the tacit Jeep is going in for servicing...it's my P&J four-wheeler....I'm taking it to Jake's in Albion, NY; he's the only one I trust to work on my venerable "US Mule".

Later!

By: BenDover on 3/4/10 at 11:44

brrrk... the that's absolute abolishment strawman. No need for a reply. Sorry you wasted so much time writing it.

Re: health care in Japan - they benefit as does the rest of the price controlled world because of our market. The proceedures and medicines and non-invasive machines are built for our market. Take that away and there's no incentive to produce all this whiz-bang technology that the rest of the world commandeers for free.

It's just like other western democratic socialistic states can sustain themselves because they don't have to spend much on their own military. They rely on the fact that we will come to their aid and the benefit from the fact that companies are developing the weapon systems for our market that they will be able to buy at production cost sans any of the R&D costs.

By: DustyU on 3/4/10 at 11:46

blanket me too its cool!

By: Blanketnazi2 on 3/4/10 at 11:47

cafepress has some awesome t-shirts. 8~)

By: gdiafante on 3/4/10 at 11:51

Police = redundant, in every aspect.

Can't post long, house was robbed a few days ago. Everything my wife and I have been working for the past few years has been stolen and likely won't be replaced. I probably won't post here anymore, I'm fed up with everything. Everyone take care.

See you in another life, brother.

By: BenDover on 3/4/10 at 11:52

Have you read Paine's Age of Reason, BN? Seems right up your ally.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 3/4/10 at 11:55

damn, g. that really sucks! i'm so sorry. will your insurance cover it?

By: Blanketnazi2 on 3/4/10 at 11:55

yes i have, Ben. it is up my alley. 8~)

By: brrrrk on 3/4/10 at 11:58

BenDover said

"Re: health care in Japan - they benefit as does the rest of the price controlled world because of our market. The proceedures and medicines and non-invasive machines are built for our market. Take that away and there's no incentive to produce all this whiz-bang technology that the rest of the world commandeers for free."

Really, then why is it that Japan is the leading innovator (and consumer) in technologies like MRI scanners? And then you have Switzerland... another "democratic socialistic state"; a leader pharmaceutical research and production.

"They rely on the fact that we will come to their aid "

Really? When's the last time that we've been asked to bail out Japan, or Switzerland, or any other real "democratic socialistic state"? They all seem to be doing quite well while we're floundering.

"Self-interest makes some people blind, and others sharp-sighted." -Francois de La Rochefoucauld

By: slacker on 3/4/10 at 12:02

brrrrk, there was that world war 2 thing, when the US bailed out Japan, and most of Europe.