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Tuesday, April 12, 2011 at 10:05pm

Just as it was four years ago, [Karl] Dean is the lesser evil [of the candidates]. At least he can talk intelligently, a quality that was missing in most of the candidates last time around. The thought of [Michael] Craddock for four years is more then I can bear. This is why Metro elections aren't held the same time other elections are. They do not want voters to turn out for the local's fiefdom elections.

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By: govskeptic on 4/13/11 at 4:44

"Off year" elections are the unfortunate norm for most municipal office
holders and "Special" election agendas. There's a reason for that:
Long time results show that "special interest" and establishment groups
win a great more of these contest than those where a great numbers
of voters show up to vote.(.ie. Presidential and Governor races)!

By: Community-carl-... on 4/13/11 at 6:01

I vehemently disagree with your assessment that Dean is the "lesser of the evils."

Dean advocates for the benefit of the rich and well connected while generally walking all over the "ordinary" citizens. His legacy will be a crippling debt load and increased property taxes for Nashville citizens, all to build the unnecessary convention center that is only going to dilute revenue and profits from existing (and adequate) venues in Nashville. And his original campaign platform, "Schools, Education, and Communities" is absolutely hypocritical when you realize that during his administration the Metro Community Education Program (that formerly provided affordable, low cost learning and career enhancement opportunities for thousands of Nashville citizens) was gutted and reduced from 6 sites to 1, and it continues to flounder because of mismanagement and sabatoge by Dean and his administration. An identical situation to what he is subjecting the Fairgrounds and Racetrack to. Dean is relentless, conniving, and evil.

Craddock, on the other hand, is a less eloquent wordsmith than Dean, and while he is blunt and outspoken, at least you can understand what he is saying and know exactly where he stands on various issues. And Craddock has not enjoyed the life of privilige that Dean has.......he understands the struggles and concerns that poor and middle class citizens face everyday......in short, he actually cares about everyday people. Yes, he's portly and not as photogenic as Dean, but, far more important, he's got common sense, an attribute that Dean lacks. Michael Craddock will never be a "show horse" for Nashville, but he will be a great "work horse."

I'm voting for Michael Craddock.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 4/13/11 at 6:09

so it's all about the racetrack for you, Carl?

By: Captain Nemo on 4/13/11 at 6:16

Good morning
http://www.onsafari.com/photos/Traveler Impressions/Lorentzen/African sunrise.jpg

By: gdiafante on 4/13/11 at 6:23

"Dean is relentless, conniving, and evil."

Pretty much negates anything else you have to say.

Why is it that these bumpkins seem to think that the race track staying suddenly solves all of Nashville's ills?

Now kids will have something to study for...so they can drive a car in a circle over and over again...

By: Captain Nemo on 4/13/11 at 6:24

Craddock is paper warrior chancing cloud dragons.

By: yogiman on 4/13/11 at 6:39

I agree with you one one issue, Community-carl,

Politicians in office "for the people" are few and far between. Most are there only for themselves. And by that I mean from the lowest political office in our nation to the presidency.

Politics should not be studied to be a career.

By: revo-lou on 4/13/11 at 7:19

{Craddock, on the other hand, is a less eloquent wordsmith than Dean, and while he is blunt and outspoken, at least you can understand what he is saying and know exactly where he stands on various issues.}

If you can't understand Dean, how do you know where he stands on issues?

By: Community-carl-... on 4/13/11 at 7:25

Hey Blanketnazi2 -

The racetrack is but one of the issues that i disagree with Dean on. I rarely go to the races, but I am aware that a lot of people do, and enjoy it immensly. What galls me is that it is just one more examplw of Dean walking all over lots of ordinary and regular people to promote the agenda of a few "highbrows."

And I am appalled that he and his administration allowed MNPS to mismanage and destroy the once highly successful and well received Metro Community Education program. (Provided affordable educational, career enhancement, and recreational opportunities for area citizens of all ages, as well as increased utilization of MNPS facilities by the people -taxpayers- who pay for them) Quite a legacy for the so-called "Education Mayor," don't you think?

Dean's ethics are very questionable to me also.....witness all the former staffers from Gov. Bredesen's administration that he has created high paying positions for in Metro.....this in spite of what he has called a "tight financial situation" in Metro government. Basically, this amounts to him creating a re-election staff on the public's dime.

In my opinion, Dean is an opportunist who is attempting to use Nashville as a stepping stone for higher political aspirations. And the man does not earn votes....he buys them. He is a slippery and corrupt politician who utilizes his legal background to great advantage both directly, and more often, indirectly, to the orchestrate the self-serving agenda of himself and his cronies.

Karl Dean: Not good for you, not good for me, not good for Nashville.

I'm voting for Michael Craddock

By: gdiafante on 4/13/11 at 7:30

I'm Michael Craddock and I approve this message.

Crazy-carl's on a roll...Craddock's payroll...lol

By: Community-carl-... on 4/13/11 at 7:31

In response to revo-lou's 8:19 post:

Thank you for making my point.....I rest my case!

(Dean uses a bunch of fancy words and complex sentence structure, but after he is finished, many people wonder just what did he say? .......Kind of reminds me of a weather forcaster the way he often hedges his bets........)

By: house_of_pain on 4/13/11 at 7:33

I'm voting for slacker.

The NCP Misfits are having a midweek meeting @ McCabe Pub tonight. 6:30.
Be there or be...sober.

By: Captain Nemo on 4/13/11 at 7:35

We are hearing the rants of an ex-Metro employee.

Craddock is blunt and say what he thinks people want to hear. If he thinks the people want cake for every meal, he will promise to have cake in every house if elected.

By: Community-carl-... on 4/13/11 at 7:38

Hey gdiafante -

I might be cheap, but I'm not easy! And while Michael Craddock still can't afford me, that reinforces my argument that he earns votes instead of buying them.

I'm an honorable man, and I cannot in good conscience avoid speaking out against
evil and corruption that I have personally experienced.

Dean = Very evil.

Craddock = Less evil.

A vote for Michael Craddock is a vote for less evil.

By: Captain Nemo on 4/13/11 at 7:41

By: revo-lou on 4/13/11 at 8:19
{Craddock, on the other hand, is a less eloquent wordsmith than Dean, and while he is blunt and outspoken, at least you can understand what he is saying and know exactly where he stands on various issues.}

If you can't understand Dean, how do you know where he stands on issues?

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I do not see where revo-lou made carl's point. I don't think carl can understand.

By: Community-carl-... on 4/13/11 at 7:42

Nemo -

I appreciate your observation RE: me being an ex-Metro employee......it reinforces the fact that I speak with a degree of personal experience and first hand knowledge.
You'd be ranting too, if you had been abused like my colleagues and I were.

By: Community-carl-... on 4/13/11 at 7:47

One thing I understaand is that Dean has a lot of people in this town snookered.

By: gdiafante on 4/13/11 at 7:48

Dean is Carl's white whale.

By: Captain Nemo on 4/13/11 at 7:52

This speakes volume as to where you are coming from, carl.

Tell us how you and your colleagues have been abused. Which department has been kicked by “The Evil Karl Dean?”

By: Captain Nemo on 4/13/11 at 7:55

Tell us how Dean has got the town snookered.

By: Community-carl-... on 4/13/11 at 7:55

Thanks a lot gdiafante - You have blown my cover.......But I will continue to harpoon him every chance I get.

- Capt. Ahab

By: Community-carl-... on 4/13/11 at 7:56

Nemo-

Please reread my 7:01 and 8:25 posts.

By: Community-carl-... on 4/13/11 at 7:58

Rant, rant, rant. It's been fun, but I've got to get to work. Have a nice day friends and acquaintances.

By: gdiafante on 4/13/11 at 8:00

"A vote for Michael Craddock is a vote for less evil."

But, evil nontheless...I didn't think honorable men voted for evil.

Personally, I think you've lost your mind. Saddam Hussein, Joseph Stalin and Adolph Hitler were evil.

Again, this rhetoric pretty much negates any point you might be attempting to make.

By: Community-carl-... on 4/13/11 at 8:03

Less evil is preferrable to more evil when those are the only 2 choices.
And my mind is just fine, thank you.

By: Captain Nemo on 4/13/11 at 8:08

I don’t suppose that budget cuts and folks like the Tea Party that don’t want taxes raised had anything to do with Metro having less money?

B/T/W What ever happen to Captain Ahab?

By: gdiafante on 4/13/11 at 8:14

Except those aren't the only two choices.

To quote the great band Rush, "If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice."

lol

By: BigPapa on 4/13/11 at 8:15

So you see it as a bad thing that Dean is bringing in people from one of the most successful administrations of recent memory? REALLY?? Also I hope Dean sees this as a stepping stone. I think it's a GOOD thing when you have a Mayor that may also be able to move on to be a Governor, etc.. Those are GOOD qualities as opposed to someone that only appeals to a small local caveat of voters.
Sorry Carl but you've got all completely backwards.

By: BigPapa on 4/13/11 at 8:15

and BTW
once he's re-electdd you can say bu- bye to the race track.

By: Captain Nemo on 4/13/11 at 8:22

I find it hard to follow the ramblings of someone so enraged as carl. He thinks that Craddock would be a better man for Nashville, than Dean in it’s self is laughable. Craddock will say anything for a vote.

Time after time I have spoken to Craddock about something and he would not give me the time of day. Then when he ran for a county-wide office, I was getting robot-phone calls two or three times a week wanting my vote.

Craddock is a chronic candidate.

By: Community-carl-... on 4/13/11 at 8:35

It is so sad how blind some people are.

By: revo-lou on 4/13/11 at 8:35

Yes Nemo, it is quite clear that carl has a comprehension problem.

By: Ingleweird on 4/13/11 at 8:36

@community-Carl:
Would you prefer Dean to don a leopard skin toga, carry a blunt club, and speak in ooga-boogas and grunts? Would you understand him then?

@yogiman:
"Politics should not be studied to be a career."
Perhaps, you are right, but some understanding of government and the legal system goes a long way. Glen Casada and Bill Ketron's reckless disregard for the U.S. Constitution could cost us dearly in court fees and lawsuits. A part-time starter political job like Councilman (and likewise, as a local realtor) does not seem like a sufficient credential or qualification for Mayor, IMO. At least Dean has a professional and working knowledge of our legal system.

By: Community-carl-... on 4/13/11 at 8:40

"At least Dean has a professional and working knowledge of our legal system."

Right....that he uses for self-serving purposes for himself and his cronies.

Goodbye...I really must go.

By: Captain Nemo on 4/13/11 at 8:41

revo-lou-

Maybe his actions are the reason of his dismissal. He seems to be all over ..."It is so sad how blind some people are."

By: Captain Nemo on 4/13/11 at 8:43

It is too late, carl. You have already gone off the deep end.

By: yogiman on 4/13/11 at 8:59

ingleweird,

I agree with you that everyone should have a basic knowledge of politics.

I don't know what the kids of today are bring taught in school, but in my childhood we had a class called civics.. and we studied the Constitution... to a point. Too many politicians of today seem to think its okay to use it for toilet paper.

By: Community-carl-... on 4/13/11 at 9:09

Nemo,
There you go jumping to conclusions again.

I wasn't dismissed or fired. Draconian budget cuts forced layoff of every employee in the Community Ed. Dept. except for newly hired (from out of state ) Executive Director. Fortunately, I was able to take early retirement. Sadly, some of my loyal and dedicated colleagues were not so fortunate.

Besides the employees, the other victims of this travesty have been the thousands of area citizens who now have one less avenue for affordable continued life-long learning and career enhancement. Considering the state of the economy and employment opportunities, I consider this an extreme disservice to Nashville citizens. Education mayor, my @$$..

By: slacker on 4/13/11 at 9:11

Carl, I feel your pain, but Craddock lost his last countywide race by thousands of votes. The guy is obviously a masochist. Dean will win by the largest margin in Metro. history.

BigPapa is correct, the Fairgrounds will be re-developed after the election. You have to let that one go.

Rant about refinancing Metro debt, swapping buildings with Co., starting projects before land acquisition is complete, bad cowlick in hair, bright colored socks.

By: slacker on 4/13/11 at 9:13

5 o'clock shadow.

By: brrrrk on 4/13/11 at 9:23

It's funny how things just happen. Came to work this morning (thinking about this whole budget mess) and fired up my personal laptop; it's my on the job source of jams. I started up my media player, putting it on random play as I always do, and as the first tune, was treated to one of my all time favorite Ozark Mountain Daredevils tunes... an ironically appropriate song I think....

It's How You Think

There are people livin' in poverty
Their lives are just misery
Can't get enough relief
There are children needing some food to eat
Shoes on their little feet
Lookin' to you and me

Why do we look away
Think it will go away today
I think it's only fair
That we should all be asked to share

There are men among us who rule our land
And though they're just fools in bands
Hold us all in their hands
There are people preaching their gods to me
Saying that I can't see
Yet they give me books to read

They say more's wrong than right
Some say more dark that light
I say it's how you think
That makes you swim or sink

By: Captain Nemo on 4/13/11 at 9:26

The point is carl that there is not any money and if you want to blame someone it is the tax payers that don’t want to pay. It is the Tea Party and like groups wants a free ride.

By: yogiman on 4/13/11 at 9:35

brrrrk,

that song must have been written back in the late 20s or early 30s. I remember that situation well. My family was very lucky. Dad had a job and there wasn't such things as welfare and government help as it is today.

It was mostly just neighbors taking care of neighbors. Everyone had a garden and everyone knew everyone in their neighborhood. And believe it or not, every neighbor helped their neighbors raise their children. Life has changed dramatically in the good old USA.

Ah, yeah. Them wuz the good ol' days.

By: revo-lou on 4/13/11 at 9:37

No, no Nemo, it was the unions and the teachers. Now we know why carl hates them all.

By: Captain Nemo on 4/13/11 at 9:43

revo-lou, don’t forget the whales.

By: brrrrk on 4/13/11 at 9:49

yogiman said

"Ah, yeah. Them wuz the good ol' days."

Hey, I think I found yogi.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y1_NhnXMCKw

By: Captain Nemo on 4/13/11 at 9:58

Oh thanks brrrrk, I am going to be call a dumba dot dot comma again.

By: brrrrk on 4/13/11 at 10:00

Captain Nemo said

"Oh thanks brrrrk, I am going to be call a dumba dot dot comma again."

Cap, I do what I can.... :-)

By: Captain Nemo on 4/13/11 at 10:03

I will get you back for this. lol

By: brrrrk on 4/13/11 at 10:13

house_of_pain said

"I'm voting for slacker.

The NCP Misfits are having a midweek meeting @ McCabe Pub tonight. 6:30.
Be there or be...sober."

Those of you who are interested might also want to consider dropping in on the Drinking Liberally crowd that meets at the Flying Saucer on Thursdays nights. It's mostly of bunch of very smart young (by my standards) kids with fire in their bellies.... hence the drinking. :-)

It makes for an evening of good conversation....

http://livingliberally.org/drinking/chapters/TN/nashville