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Thursday, April 21, 2011 at 12:37am

Many of us tend to believe that governance gets more parochial and provincial as we go from the federal level down to the municipal level. The more local the law, the more likely it is to contain bias and prejudice, and to be generally more "conservative." That's the conventional wisdom and sadly, that is often the case. Oppressive local ordinances are routinely thrown out in court, as state and/or federal standards of compliance supercede or trump local laws.

In the case of Metro Nashville versus the State of Tennessee, it's the other way around. Government at the state level is extremely conservative. And at the local Metro Nashville level, it is decidedly more liberal, especially in the areas of civil and human rights. This is what makes this a nationally newsworthy story.

If the Judeo-Christian theocrats, who now rule the Tennessee [legislature] are ever to be voted out of office, the crusade to do so must begin in Nashville and the time to begin that noble battle is right now. The line in the sand has been drawn. Davy Crockett stood his ground. Will Metro Nashville do the same?

Posted by "Loner"

 

 

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Tagged: Davy Crockett

112 Comments on this post:

By: dargent7 on 4/21/11 at 4:13

Good going "loner".
Very articulate, consice, and verbose at the same time...
Hey, Bob Seger is playing tonight at Bridgestone.
( I think he's your age)
We'll call you for a conference call around midnight.
Easter Sunday I'm going to church.
There's only around 200 to choose from in my neighborhood.
I'm torn between a traditional Catholic Mass and the Church of Scientology.

By: house_of_pain on 4/21/11 at 5:08

Our representatives(local & state) are quickly becoming a joke. A bad one.

d7, be sure to wear your "painting shirt" to church. Do we need to adjust our meeting time this week?

By: dargent7 on 4/21/11 at 5:15

House: I fell compelled (read: guilt) to attend Mass at St Ann's.
We could all meet up there...around 12:00pm for an Easter service?
I'm rusty on my parishoner's standing up and sitting down rituals, but it will all come back.
Then we can all get loaded at Neighbor's bar.

By: budlight on 4/21/11 at 5:40

Loner, you must have been hurt deeply at some point in your life; you have such a hatred to Christians. It's a shame. I will pray for you.

By: house_of_pain on 4/21/11 at 5:41

I'd be up for the getting loaded afterwards.

By: dargent7 on 4/21/11 at 5:58

House: I think I can slip in a good word for you in the Confessional.
I've got 16 years to make up for, could make for a long session.
Hope the priest doesn't fall asleep like an air traffic controller.

By: dargent7 on 4/21/11 at 5:59

Bud: Loner has more Christianity on his pinky than you have in your entire body.
Save your "prayers" for yourself or yogi.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 4/21/11 at 6:06

bud, telling someone who is not into christianity that you'll "pray for them" is like a satanist telling you they'll do a midnight sacrefice for you. it's insulting.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 4/21/11 at 6:07

dargent, i hear st. ann's has the best wine at passover.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 4/21/11 at 6:11

yo ho ho, off to work i go. have a good day, everyone!

By: gdiafante on 4/21/11 at 6:13

Maybe one day I'll get to go to your Sunday meetings...busy month for me...both my kids birthdays, Easter, playoffs...

Blanket, to me, prayer is like crossing your fingers and saying "pretty please". It's not very effective.

I'll give you an example...last night's Preds game.

By: dargent7 on 4/21/11 at 6:15

BN2: 13.% on average alcohol levels. Beats the Presypertarians and Lutherans by 2%.
Hear the Jews use Manechevitz at 9.% (they dillute it, being jews).
"Oh Lord, forgive me for saying that..." Larry "the Cable" Guy.

By: dargent7 on 4/21/11 at 6:19

gD: My Red Wings "swept" the Cougars. Your boys blew it last nite.
Going to see Bob Seger tonight?

By: dargent7 on 4/21/11 at 6:21

s/h/b Coyotes...never heard of them.
In my day there were the Boston Bruins, Chicago Black Hawks, Montreal Canadiens, New York Rangers, St. Louis Blues, Philadelphia Flyers.
No Ducks or Coyotes.

By: gdiafante on 4/21/11 at 6:23

Did the Wings play last night? I keep forgetting about that series...The Preds tend to choke in big games. I'm starting to wonder why I'm putting myself through this annual letdown.

No Bob Seger...relatives are in from Iowa for Easter, which pretty much ends any plans I might have for the weekend...except running...that's my only outlet for peace and quiet.

By: house_of_pain on 4/21/11 at 6:24

Christians seem to be the only group that can turn "Jesus loves you", or "I'll pray for you" into something hateful & vindictive. Kinda like what we Southerners did with "Bless your heart".
Of course, not all Christians are like that.

By: global_citizen on 4/21/11 at 6:28

To expand on dargent's point to budlight... Offering Christian prayers to an atheist is not just insulting, it's silly. If a Muslim or a Buddhist offered to pray for you, would you care in the least? No, I don't think so.

And it's not being kind or Christianly either. It's being sanctimonious. It's like offering a plate of pork roast to a hungry Muslim or orthodox Jew. You're not trying to do the right thing, you're trying to stick your religion in someone's face while pretending to be doing the good, Christianly thing.

By: gdiafante on 4/21/11 at 6:32

Well, prayer makes no sense. Mainly because the concensus seems to be that God is hands off. If he/she's hands off, you can ask all you like but he/she's not going to intervene.

I can understand using prayer as a way to feel closer to God, but when you start making requests, you lose me.

By: dargent7 on 4/21/11 at 6:32

Global: Great post, but it was the Nazi Woman 2 who took her to task.

By: house_of_pain on 4/21/11 at 6:34

That's it, gd...you're officially on the prayer list...

By: Antisocialite on 4/21/11 at 6:38

You know who I pray to? Joe Pesci. Two reasons: First of all, I think he's a good actor, okay? To me, that counts. Second, he looks like a guy who can get things done. Joe Pesci doesn't f*** around. In fact, Joe Pesci came through on a couple of things that God was having trouble with.

For years I asked God to do something about my noisy neighbor with the barking dog, Joe Pesci straightened that c***sucker out with one visit. It's amazing what you can accomplish with a simple baseball bat.

So I've been praying to Joe for about a year now. And I noticed something. I noticed that all the prayers I used to offer to God, and all the prayers I now offer to Joe Pesci, are being answered at about the same 50% rate. Half the time I get what I want, half the time I don't. Same as God, 50-50. Same as the four-leaf clover and the horseshoe, the wishing well and the rabbit's foot, same as the Mojo Man, same as the Voodoo Lady who tells you your fortune by squeezing the goat's testicles, it's all the same: 50-50. So just pick your superstition, sit back, make a wish, and enjoy yourself.

-George Carlin

By: dargent7 on 4/21/11 at 6:43

Prayer makes no sense?
I don't get that statement.
Maybe you prefer meditation?
Same thing. Or chanting.
You know classical music...put on Vaughn William's, "Fantasia on a Theme by Thomas Tallis" and tell me you don't, "center".
Or, "Moonlight".

By: gdiafante on 4/21/11 at 6:44

Man, I miss Carlin.

By: dargent7 on 4/21/11 at 6:48

"...squeezing a goat's testicles..."?
Now, that's something I haven't tried yet.
Does Tony Robbins offer a seminar based on that?
His "Fire Walk" on Maui was $5,000.
Had a year long wait list.

By: dargent7 on 4/21/11 at 6:48

I miss Richard Pryor.

By: gdiafante on 4/21/11 at 6:56

The difference is, darge, when I listen to Mozart it doesn't compel me to beg an invisible entity.

I went to a memorial service recently, and I'd say 75% of the service was long-winded prayers that really didn't say anything. Why were we praying for God to comfort everyone? Shouldn't God do that without being asked?

And if you have to ask, maybe it's because God doesn't really feel like comforting you.

Seems to me that prayer is nothing but a lack of faith or a form of self-reassurement.

By: yogiman on 4/21/11 at 6:56

house_of_pain' How about adding "federal" to "local and sate" in you 6:08 post?

By: yogiman on 4/21/11 at 6:58

S/H/B

How about adding "federal" to "local and state" in you 6:08 post?

By: gdiafante on 4/21/11 at 7:00

Actually, yogi, it should have been "How about adding "federal" to "local and state" in your 6:08 post?

:)

By: dargent7 on 4/21/11 at 7:03

gD: I know your good friend died.
So, as humans, we turn to "something" for strength and understanding.
Maybe for some it's family, or a NASCAR race.
For others, it's prayer as an attempt to understand, "why"?.
And God is at that center, whether achieved by prayer, music, meditation, or chanting.

By: dargent7 on 4/21/11 at 7:10

My belief is in that Biblical quote, "Knock....." God is really busy.
If you don't want His help, anytime, He has many who do.
He always answers the call.

By: gdiafante on 4/21/11 at 7:11

That's fine, darge, but it still seems like it's a lack of faith. When I'm beaten down, my family comforts me, I don't have to ask.

Asking God for help is no different than asking a tree. They'll both give you the same answer.

By: gdiafante on 4/21/11 at 7:14

My belief is a line from "Beautiful Boy"...

Life is what happens when you're busy making other plans."

By: dargent7 on 4/21/11 at 7:22

..humm...Talking to a tree equates to praying/ communing with God?
Don't know that particular philosophy.
Must be a "Southern Style" religion, that I'm quite unfimiliar.

By: gdiafante on 4/21/11 at 7:30

By: gdiafante on 4/21/11 at 7:30

By: gdiafante on 4/21/11 at 7:33

It's not that difficult a concept...it doesn't have to be tree...it can be anything that can't answer back.

I just prayed to my computer monitor for a nice hot cup of Joe.

By: Captain Nemo on 4/21/11 at 8:00

Good morning people and you too yogi.

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By: Captain Nemo on 4/21/11 at 8:00

Loner writes another good post and as always to the point. The right-wing has many that think they have the only way to Gods kingdom. Their reason is that God thinks just like them. lol

By: Captain Nemo on 4/21/11 at 8:00

Just because someone does not think or believe in the way you do budlight does not mean they hate Christians. However I do despise those that wear the Christian fabric as a tool for social climbing.

By: Captain Nemo on 4/21/11 at 8:00

Just because someone does not think or believe in the way you do budlight does not mean they hate Christians. However I do despise those that wear the Christian fabric as a tool for social climbing.

By: Captain Nemo on 4/21/11 at 8:04

I want make it this Sunday for our little get together, because I have a date with my youngest daughter on Monday. Plus we will be together this Sunday, first time in a long time. See you the following week, I hope.

By: slacker on 4/21/11 at 8:09

Prayer cloths 2 for 1 sale, better hurry.
-Slacker Inc.

By: Captain Nemo on 4/21/11 at 8:15

How high was the mark-up before it went on sale? ;-)

By: yogiman on 4/21/11 at 9:13

Not to change the subject, but... can anyone explain why there is 3 different co-owners of Obama's Chicago home? I thought he and Michele were to sole owners until the records showed three others as owners/taxpayers of the address the Obamas claim as home.

Are they just renting it... or getting "free rent"?

By: gdiafante on 4/21/11 at 9:18

Not to change the subject, but...

What has the higher IQ...a hard-boiled egg or yogi?

By: house_of_pain on 4/21/11 at 10:04

Mmm...egg salad...

By: Loner on 4/21/11 at 10:13

Good morning, Nashville!

Dargent7 wrote: "Good going "loner". Very articulate, consice, and verbose at the same time..."

From Merriam Webster:

Definition of VERBOSE
1. containing more words than necessary : wordy (a verbose reply); also : impaired by wordiness (a verbose style)
2. given to wordiness (a verbose orator)

So, which words should have been cut, Darge? I appreciate the English lessons.

By: BenDover on 4/21/11 at 10:13

Well... the way I look at it is that I think life as we know it is just too dang complicated for it to have bootstrapped itself out of the mud. So if there is some creator who set all of this in motion then divine revelation, or communication between the creator and the creation, is a piece of cake compared to the creation itself. If there's anything to that then the history and example of Jesus and Christianity's long-term influence on western civilization isn't anything I can just dismiss. I learned a long time ago that the more I learn the more I learn how little I know and I'm really not smarter than all of the forgotten lessons sewn into the fabric of our society. So I'm good with faith and the traditions of prayer... even if a bunch of atheistic scientists can't find a logical reason for it.

By: BenDover on 4/21/11 at 10:16

I think he meant 'Verbose' in a good way that was not offensive to people who enjoy a concise style. You're good at that loner and I would agree with what the darge said.