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Wednesday, June 8, 2011 at 12:26am

I think the better tactic would be for [Karl] Dean to lay out all the reasons why keeping the fairgrounds is a bad idea. It's not like he has any opposition to deal with. [He should] just use the time to campaign against something he believes in.

Posted by "BigPapa"

 

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By: Captain Nemo on 6/8/11 at 7:18

If not for the Founders of the UAS being Liberals, we would not be waving Old Glory today.

By: Captain Nemo on 6/8/11 at 7:20

Seems these days Conservatives have convinced themselves, and some of the American public, that being a Liberal is akin to being a card-carrying member of the Communist Party. While this may be a great smear tactic for an election year, to believe such a notion proves that the believer is uneducated in the fundamentals of the American political system. Our nation was founded on Liberalism. Embodied in the Declaration of Independence are its three tenets: "Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness." The very term, itself, is taken from the same root as the second of these precepts. To be a Liberal is to defend the freedom - the Liberty - of all people who make up our great nation. To be a Liberal is to trust individuals and families to run their own lives as they see fit. To be a Liberal is to create a nation where anyone can excel if they are willing to do the work.

http://www.elroy.net/politics/liberal.html

By: Captain Nemo on 6/8/11 at 7:26

If this was a Communists country, we would have sent yogi to Siberia. lol

By: BigPapa on 6/8/11 at 7:32

Yeah the term Liberal and Conservative have been co-opted by neo-socialists and marxist, and jesus freaks.
But those terms are just marketing. It's a "liberal" idea to give women the vote.. in 1899! No so much in 2011. I would not say it is a "liberal" idea to impliment wealth distribution plans and endorse the wealfare state. That is what it is: socialism- it's just that the party knows that they cant come right out and say "socialist" in the USA. It's just not an accepted term like in Europe.

There's an arm of the GOP that wants everyone in sunday school, prayer in school, no alcohol, no legal weed, no abortion.. they want to legislate eveyone into a 1950's Beaver Cleaver household. All under the guise of "less government".

All we can do is chose the lesser of the two evils that lean closer to our way of thinking and hope they dont do too much damage when in power.

By: Captain Nemo on 6/8/11 at 7:42

Excellent observation BigPapa, I am more toward the center left, but not so far as that I can’t go to the right when needed. I miss the days when a Republican was a Republican and not these neo-cons and Tea Bags that have corrupted the party. I don’t know if the GOP can recover.

The same goes for the far Left.

By: gdiafante on 6/8/11 at 7:45

Speaking of the will of the people, have any of you Conservatives ever wondered why, when proposals are put forth to privatize entitlements, people react in a negative way?

The fact is, that in an advanced and large society like ours, a combination of Socialism and Capitalism works. The problem is in the balance.

And as I've said before, if you have a problem with entitlement programs, you'll want to move somewhere else once the boomers have fully retired.

By: Captain Nemo on 6/8/11 at 7:55

The key word is BALANCE.

I need to go dig in the garden and find some tractor parts. lol

By: bfra on 6/8/11 at 8:18

Nemo - Glad you didn't use yogi & balance in the same sentence.

By: BigPapa on 6/8/11 at 8:18

Libertarian is the way to go. That's why I've always ended up voting for the GOP. While they have a terrible jesus freak following, there is (generally) more of a Libertarian swath in the GOP way of thinking than in the Dem.
(I did vote for Phil for gov 2x, and would vote for him 4x if allowed.)

By: gdiafante on 6/8/11 at 8:22

There's not much difference between Dems and Republicans, papa. The GOP says they're for smaller government but they increase it too.

Both are in the pocket of special interests.

Both believe in welfare, the Dems for poor people and the GOP for the rich.

Both say that entitlements should be reformed then they ignore them.

Both would like to engage in some form of social engineering.

Both are full of moronic and unethical tools.

By: house_of_pain on 6/8/11 at 8:25

Agreed, gd.

By: BigPapa on 6/8/11 at 8:45

Sadly that is true. A strong 3rd party would be nice, but history shows that 3rd parties dont come out of the middle, they almost always come from the extreme ends of the spectrum.

By: slacker on 6/8/11 at 9:08

Ross Perot might have pulled off the mother of upsets, if he hadn't revealed he was bonkers.
I think at one time he was ahead in the polls.

By: brrrrk on 6/8/11 at 10:24

gdiafante said

"I love irony"

Is that steam irony, or just your run or the mill electric irony?

By: brrrrk on 6/8/11 at 10:36

Captain Nemo said

"If not for the Founders of the UAS being Liberals, we would not be waving Old Glory today."

In a lot of ways I think we're still fighting off the Tories. I would even go so far as to say that the current incarnation of the GOP is a direct ideological descendent of the British Tories and their political positions. And for some reason, they seem to believe that they have some connection with the members of the original Boston Tea Party? Clueless historical idiots....

By: brrrrk on 6/8/11 at 10:45

BigPapa said

"Sadly that is true. A strong 3rd party would be nice, but history shows that 3rd parties dont come out of the middle, they almost always come from the extreme ends of the spectrum."

I agree. Third parties very rarely (at least on the national level) have any chance of getting elected BECAUSE of their extreme nature. Sure you might have a third party candidate elected locally, but that's usually all you'll see. As for the effects of third parties, they tend to drive the closest mainstream party (in terms of ideology) towards the extreme, as is happening with the Tea Party and the GOP, or the mainstream party adopts a few third party positions to placate the extremists.

By: gdiafante on 6/8/11 at 12:08

No tea party...only coffee.

-Juan Valdez

By: slacker on 6/8/11 at 12:18

Juan Valdez is an illegal...
-yogi

By: gdiafante on 6/8/11 at 12:47

I personally signed and can verify yogi's birth certificate.

-Dr. Who

By: BenDover on 6/8/11 at 1:12

I love the Doctor.

By: slacker on 6/8/11 at 2:40

Top 5 reasons Fairground not needed:

1- Kia guy bought up all the Ferris Wheels
2- Govt. deems cotton candy to high in calories
3- Bearded lady runs off with strongman
4- Geek commits suicide over Bearded lady
5- Huge lawsuits over bumper cars by TV lawyers

By: budlight on 6/8/11 at 3:11

Captain Nemo on 6/8/11 at 6:31
He will just deny it and bud will call me a menace to the universe.

Wow! Yogi, I've been in Chattanooga since last Friday morning. Didn't think about or even open e-mail with City Paper. AND YET these yahoo's still manage to conjure me up. Sad! I'm so sad that Nemo has no one better to talk about than you and me. He definitely needs our undivided attention towards his well being. Anyway, nice to see you are still defending yourself, the country, the constitution and our way of life.

I love Chattanooga. It is so pollution free and free from so much crime, however, I did run across some real bonafide libs at the grocery store where they have parking on the front rows for Low Emissions Vehicles (LEV's). I laughed till I turned blue and took a photo standing in the parking place over the sign. It was so funny. I said "OMG, Carl Dean needs to see these". The grocery store employee said those parking places are incentives to purchase LEV's.

I said "oh yes, it would make me run right out and get a $40,000 to $60,000 vehicle just like that". Right! Anyway, he was extremely nice, so I fibbed a little and said "oh what a great idea" - right after I said the first sentence. He didn't get defensive. He's a democrat with a good sense of humor, some common sense and a bit of compassion for his fellow Americans.

I also heard that President Bush is a man who understands eating for wellness at the wellness workshop I attended. The presenter said nice things about former President Bush and got a round of applause. It seemed odd to me that the audience was applauding since about 60% of them were libs and democrats. Again, libs and democrats with some common sense. Rare!

By: bfra on 6/8/11 at 3:22

slacker - Need to keep the petting zoo, with yogi & his admirer "bud", as added attractions!

By: yogiman on 6/8/11 at 3:37

I agree bfra,

Lets keep that zoo open! Then way you and your fellow Obama (or is that Barry Soetoro?) loving buffoons would have a better place to meet and kiss each others asses in public.

By: slzy on 6/8/11 at 9:18

would'nt it be clearer if Phil would say what Karl means?

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