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Sunday, February 13, 2011 at 10:44pm

More nagging questions [regarding the proposed Metro nondiscrimination bill related to companies that contract with the city]:

What does "contracting with Metro" actually mean? Beyond the obvious stuff, like providing goods and services to Metro, does "contracting with Metro" include Metro contracts involving rental and leasing agreements, and buying/selling real estate?

For example, do vendors at the fairgrounds flea market have to prove compliance in order to participate?

What about the racetrack at the Fairgrounds? Does the lessee have to prove compliance with the new language of the law?

Then there's "public art.  Do the artists have to sign papers affirming their stand on the GLBT issue?

The Metro bus service, city cabs and the airport all contract with Metro, right? Are those industries included in the new paradigm too?

Will the Titans and Predators have to show compliance too?

Will businesses be considered guilty until proven innocent on this discrimination charge? Will businesses be forced to prove their innocence before entering into new contracts?

Posted by "loner"

 

 

 

106 Comments on this post:

By: Antisocialite on 2/14/11 at 10:08

Here's another link for you, although I'm sure you will deride the site as 'liberal.'

http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in_the_usa.html

Again, not holding my breath

By: gdiafante on 2/14/11 at 10:13

anti, don't bother. I laid it all out in detail on Friday. Yogi just doesn't want to believe he's legitimate. You can fill in the blanks.

By: BenDover on 2/14/11 at 10:19

What's up with the editor wanting to perpetuate the homosexuality-is-a-civil-right debate? This horse is dead, already. If some counsel members want to pander to the gay constituency and add another stupid requirement to the private businesses that want to sell their services to Metro then I guess that's OK if they can get the votes. Seems stupid to me but I just want the incessant chatter about it to end.

By: Antisocialite on 2/14/11 at 10:20

anti, don't bother. I laid it all out in detail on Friday. Yogi just doesn't want to believe he's legitimate. You can fill in the blanks.

I didn't realize you had done that gdiafante, but I just wanted to quickly have an example of what my previous comment and link were discussing here in the thread for all to see.

By: Antisocialite on 2/14/11 at 10:36

What's up with the editor wanting to perpetuate the homosexuality-is-a-civil-right debate?

I actually agree with Ben a little on this point, although I disagree with the characterization he gives the council members who support the measure.

LTE, or whatever the hell we are calling these comments, need to have a variety of topics or they get stale. This is another inherent problem with City Paper's 'editorial' page policy shift. If they are only taking comments from popular threads it basically creates a feedback loop that ensures we keep commenting on the same stuff.

By: gdiafante on 2/14/11 at 10:50

We hardly ever stick to the topic so I don't see where that's an issue. God help us if they publish one of the birther comments.

By: BenDover on 2/14/11 at 11:13

If they'd turn on the comment count on the main page the readership would pick its own most interesting topics for debate and would shift, on topic, from story to story rather than be a free-for-all under the LTE. The old Nashville Digest did this but when it shut down and some of us migrated to the City Paper they didn't have the functionality to support it at the time.

I think it may be an option under the new software though. If so that would be nice.

By: dargent7 on 2/14/11 at 11:14

yogi bear: The plural of "jackass" is "jackassi".
And it was 2 years before Obama ran and won the presidency.
No one except YOU knows the Constitution?
Everyone knew his father was from Kenya. He hardly kept it a secret.
NO ONE stepped forward to debate whether he was legally able to become POTUS because of his father's birthplace?
You know more than 100,000 US Constitutional lawyers know about the law?
Stick to the "anchor baby" nonsense.
It fits you like a glove.

By: Loner on 2/14/11 at 11:31

Did someone say, "incessant chatter"?

Posting from the Java Junction, in Brockport, NY.

Jusr got back from checking on my teneant house...the furnace went out...all OK ..now.

Ben, name the topic.

By: revo-lou on 2/14/11 at 11:34

Damn loner, you had better slow down, serr will be ALL over you about your spelling/grammer. And you don't want him all over you. And for your spelling either!

By: Loner on 2/14/11 at 11:44

I see what you meangya...Revo...this terminal has no built-in spellcheck feature. I got used to those squiggly lines tipping me off to errors. This keyboard has sticky keys...must be spilled java gumming up the works.

That was supposed to be "tenant", not "teneant"; "just", not jusr"....there that should set things right.

I can handle old Serr8d....let him bring it.

By: brrrrk on 2/14/11 at 11:46

Captain Nemo said

"By: yogiman on 2/11/11 at 3:40
brrrrk,
For you information, I voted for a black man for the President's office in 2008... but it sure as hell wasn't Barry Soetoro or Barack Obama.

Who was this black man and can you prove it?"

Mitt Romney. Black... Mormon... what's the diff?

By: Loner on 2/14/11 at 11:54

Yogi sez that he did not vote for Alan Keyes...other than Obama, those were the only two B;ack men running for the office....Colin Powel was never an announced contender, so that rules his name out. Maybe Yogi wrote in the name, "Steppin Fetchit", or "Uncle Tom". Maybe Jack Benny's, "Rochester"...or "Amos & Andy"?

By: Loner on 2/14/11 at 12:01

I thought that Bnakat might come out from his hiding place, to comment...no sign of that old curmudgeon.

By: dargent7 on 2/14/11 at 12:27

How much anyone want to bet if Obama's father was born in Switzerland, and WHITE, he'd have NO problem with the citizenship issue?
No, these southern plantation owners aren't racist, even in the slightest. According to them. Just ask.
However, their responses and accusations are ALL about race, the "black" race, adamant denials notwithstanding.

By: Loner on 2/14/11 at 12:53

No bet there, D7. Same effect exists with the immigration issue. If the Mexicans were all blond, blue-eyed Protestants, the Republican Party would have set up welcome wagons at the border crossings. Dark-skinned Catholics might vote Democratic, and pollute our genetic purity, ergo the big GOP fuss.

Arizona was the last holdout state on the MLK Holiday issue, that was John McCain's forte. Now, the emphasis in AZ is keeping the "illegals" out. Again, McCain is the Caucasian point-man.

Getting beaten by a black guy for the Presidency must have frosted McCain's Caucasian cupcake...it couldn't have happened to a more deserving fellow.

By: brrrrk on 2/14/11 at 1:20

dargent7 said

"How much anyone want to bet if Obama's father was born in Switzerland, and WHITE, he'd have NO problem with the citizenship issue?"

Like I said before, it's all about a black man in the "white" house.

By: brrrrk on 2/14/11 at 1:25

gdiafante said

"anti, don't bother. I laid it all out in detail on Friday. Yogi just doesn't want to believe he's legitimate. You can fill in the blanks."

He's like a MadLib where you know what all the answers all. :-)

By: yogiman on 2/14/11 at 3:14

Loner,

If you would read what you make negative remarks about, you wouldn't find it necessary to make such ignorant comments. I believe it was three times (this will make it four) that I remarked I wrote in Bill Cosby.

dargent7,

As I have said before, and of course you don't know me, to be blunt one more time, I don't give a damn what a man's race is. It is the man. And this one isn't in that office legally.

Antisocialite,

That Certification of Life Birth is not an official birth certificate. If so, why did so many others show a different form than Barry. And if he is in that office legally, why doesn't he feel like saving hundreds of thousands of dollars. On that CoLB, why does it show his father's race as African? There is only four official races on this earth; Asian, Caucasian, Indian and Negro. Or was your civic classes different than mine?

By: house_of_pain on 2/14/11 at 3:29

Heck, I'm not even sure I could prove that I'm human...

By: Antisocialite on 2/14/11 at 3:30

There is only four official races on this earth; Asian, Caucasian, Indian and Negro. Or was your civic classes different than mine?

I think we already established that my education, especially with regards to the social studies, was a bit more... accurate than your own, or have you forgotten how you were told Tennessee got it's nickname?

I'm sorry to say that your 'official races' line doesn't exactly inspire any more confidence in your educational curriculum. As I (and many others) see it there is only one race, the human race, all other references to race are purely societal or demographic constructs.

While scientists use the concept of race to make practical distinctions among fuzzy sets of traits, the scientific community feels that the idea of race is often used by the general public in a naive or simplistic way, erroneously designating wholly discrete types of individuals.

By: brrrrk on 2/14/11 at 3:35

Antisocialite said

"While scientists use the concept of race to make practical distinctions among fuzzy sets of traits, the scientific community feels that the idea of race is often used by the general public in a naive or simplistic way, erroneously designating wholly discrete types of individuals."

Well now, there's your problem. We all know that scientists are secular, humanist, communists who are trying to kill God. And you should know that too!!

By: Loner on 2/14/11 at 3:35

Ah, so it was the comedian, Bill Cosby that Yogi voted for to be our President. Jello-pudding pops in every freezer, with Cosby.....puddin' heads can't resist that.

By: house_of_pain on 2/14/11 at 3:37

Check out the big brain on Antisocialite. Well said.
Race ain't nothin' but an adjective.

By: brrrrk on 2/14/11 at 3:38

Loner said

"Ah, so it was the comedian, Bill Cosby that Yogi voted for to be our President. Jello-pudding pops in every freezer, with Cosby.....puddin' heads can't resist that."

Well, at least yogi took his vote seriously.

By: brrrrk on 2/14/11 at 3:44

Bruce Fein, Ronald Reagan’s former Associate Deputy Attorney General, published a letter in today’s New York Times castigating Justice Antonin Scalia for speaking to a backroom meeting organized by the House Tea Party Caucus:

"Justice Antonin Scalia galloped beyond the farthest boundaries of judicial propriety in secretly meeting on Capitol Hill to discuss the Constitution with Tea Party members of Congress saddled with a co-equal duty to assess the constitutionality of legislative action. If there are better ways to destroy public confidence in judicial impartiality, they do not readily come to mind. … Associate Justice Abe Fortas was forced to resign for, among other things, secretly advising President Lyndon B. Johnson on race, urban unrest and the Vietnam War."

Wow, what does it say when the Republicans start to lose the Reagan Republicans?

By: dargent7 on 2/14/11 at 3:44

Yogi: ..."It isn't about race...this man isn't in there legally".
'Cuse me professor..your racism screams so loud, no one can hear what it is you're saying.
If Obama's daddy was an aristocrat from any European country, AND WHITE, you'd let this argument go.
The 'Birthers" aren't going for the "daddy's from Kenya" theory, they're going for the, "Obama was BORN in Kenya" theory.
At the very least, get your ducks in a row.

By: Loner on 2/14/11 at 3:50

For medical purposes, there is such a thing as "race". Remember Sickle Cell Anemia?

Nowadays, folks like to use the term, "ethnicity" to describe what used to be called, "race". We can thank the Third Reich for much of that.

Geneticists have also found a molecular basis for "ethnicity"; an individual's DNA has a racial component to it...it is now possible to trace one's own ethnicity using DNA analysis.

If we go back far enough, it is clear that all humans alive today have a common maternal ancestor...the Eve figure. And there is only one remaining species in the genus Homo, in that sense, there is no such thing as "race"...we all belong to the same extended family.

By: brrrrk on 2/14/11 at 3:55

Loner said

"For medical purposes, there is such a thing as "race". Remember Sickle Cell Anemia?"

And, there are certain Scandinavian groups that have allergies to some grains. While I'm not sure this can be applied to Sickle Cell Anemia, there are some diseases that have more to do with hundreds of years of living within a certain environment than having to do with "ethnicity".

By: house_of_pain on 2/14/11 at 4:00

Superman was allergic to kryptonite.

By: house_of_pain on 2/14/11 at 4:01

"was"..."is"...whatever.

By: bfra on 2/14/11 at 4:05

Loner - Does that mean yogi is actually kin to Obama, in a way? Tee Hee

By: Loner on 2/14/11 at 4:10

Justice Scalia is big-mouthed Italian-American with a bombastic, "in you face" sort of style. During the last five-year period, Scalia asked an average of 25 questions per case during the "oral arguments" phase of the USSC review protocol . Nobody else came close. He is a grandstanding A-hole.

Clarence Thomas, Scalia's fawning sycophant, has not asked a single question, during that phase of the proceedings, in the last five years. He sits there like a jowly toad, silently seething with anger for perceived wrongs perpetrated against him and his politically active wife. He's a loser.

Maybe Thomas is just observing the old adage; "It is better to be thought a fool, than to open one's mouth and remove all doubt."

IMO, Thomas has no business even being on the USSC, he is a third-rate intellect who played the race card to get what is basically a no-show , lifetime, government job. He hit the lazy man's jackpot.

Justice Thomas lacked the judicial and moral integrity to recuse himself on Bush vs Gore...in 2000. Bush's daddy appointed this token black Justice and Thomas returned the favor, by voting for Bush the Younger. That really sucked.

No, I have no faith whatsoever in the integrity of this USSC Court...they are all political hacks....shallow men and shallow women beholden to special interests, no different than our corrupt and beholden politicians.

By: Loner on 2/14/11 at 4:13

Well, Bfra, I'll be a monkey's uncle...I suppose that Yogi is related to Barry Obama. It's Kum-By-Yah time.

Good to see you posting again, Bfra.

By: brrrrk on 2/14/11 at 4:16

bfra said

"Loner - Does that mean yogi is actually kin to Obama, in a way? Tee Hee"

You want to make an alter kaker turn meshugener?

By: Loner on 2/14/11 at 4:18

Excellent point, House...that Kryptonite comment could be tomorrow's published Reader Comment.

By: AmyLiorate on 2/14/11 at 4:20

I think this video features our pal House of Pain on a popular game show:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQRMvg5TAl8

I hope everyone laughs their butt off. I especially like how the host turns his shoulder with a look of total disgust... but the ending is spectacular!

Oh yeah, Happy Valentines Day everyone.

By: Loner on 2/14/11 at 4:24

The Bible is clear, there is such a thing as "race"...the Hebrews wiped many of them out...(Canaanites etc.) it's all in the Torah (the Old Testament).

The God of Abraham was a big-time racist...He did not want the Hebrew genes to mix with the other sapient creatures on this mudball....If the God of Abraham thought racism was Kosher, indeed necessary, then who are we lowly donkey people to question that?

I certainly know my place.

By: bfra on 2/14/11 at 4:25

Loner & brrrrk - Yogi isn't responding, he is marveling in his newly found kin folk!

By: Loner on 2/14/11 at 4:27

Nice video, Amy, but I think House posted it a few days ago....maybe it was Nemo, I can't recall. I did laugh my @ss off.

By: Loner on 2/14/11 at 4:28

Yogi will be ordering collard greens for supper tonight?

By: AmyLiorate on 2/14/11 at 4:34

Well crumbs, I guess I'm missing out on a lot of fun. Too much work lately, but I guess it's better than no work at all.

By: Loner on 2/14/11 at 4:37

If the Bible is the word of God, then God must be some kind of a super bigot; the more logical explanation is that the Bible is simply the collected work of bigoted Jewish males.

By: Loner on 2/14/11 at 4:39

I would have answered, "STD's", on that survey sez show, Amy...certainly that is being passed around.

By: Loner on 2/14/11 at 4:41

Now, I gotta run...we did figure it all out by 4:20....as predicted. I'll check back later for a parting shot.

By: yogiman on 2/14/11 at 4:42

dargent7,

You have made several remarks about race on the political issue. How about checking out Allen West and Herman Cain. Two black men who would be a good man for the office. I think West would fit better than Cain. If you haven't heard of it, West was basically forced to resign from service because he was backing his men too rough compared to the "government's" desire.

Cain has pulled a couple of companies out of their business holes before. Maybe he could pull the US out on the one Obama and congress is putting it in.

And further, considering the race factor in our country was technically, legally and aggressively ordered to become null and void 47 years ago, why is it still being claimed? And by what race the most?

By: Loner on 2/14/11 at 4:45

One last thing, Ypgi, Bush and Cheney put the nation into the "hole"...Obama got us out of it, in record time...the man knows what he is doing and he will be re-elected, so deal with it.

Loner out.

By: yogiman on 2/14/11 at 5:01

Children,

Yes, Bill Cosb, was a comedian. And a damn good one. It was a job. What do you do children for a living? Play the idiotic stage? Or are you all retired and aren't taking up any company time to enjoy your time on the internet?

Bill Cosby holds a PHD. What is your educational level?

By: yogiman on 2/14/11 at 5:14

Darn, bfra, are you sure I'm not of direct kin to you? I sure hope not.

By: Loner on 2/14/11 at 5:45

Actually, I would prefer Bill Cosby as President, as opposed to another member of the Bush or Clinton family. I would vote for Cosby, if he ran against any of the current GOP hopefuls. Cosby, who majored in PE at Temple, is an intellectual giant, when compared with Sarah Palin.

Lately, Cosby has taken a hard right turn, however, and he no longer projects the warmth and compassion that he once did. The guy's a multi-millionaire. Cosby will be 74 this year...they all get cranky when they start to dry out and wither away...."Hey, you kids, get off of my lawn!!"