Viewpoints: 9/11 conspirators shouldn't be tried in federal court

  U.S. Senator Bob Corker ( R-Tenn.) is cosponsoring bipartisan legislation to prevent the use of Justice Department funds to prosecute Khalid Sheikh Mohammad and the 9/11 conspirators in federal court. The legislation, sponsored by Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) currently has 18 co-sponsors. Here are Sen. Corker's comments: “Khalid Sheikh Mohammed and other al-Qaida terrorists should not be given the same rights as American citizens, and they should not be tried in a federal court. “Congress responded to the 9/11 attacks by authorizing the use of military force and by developing a military commission system to detain enemy combatants and try those who violate the laws of war. "Military commissions provide a fair standard of justice, reflect the true status of these terrorists according to U.S. and international law, and are the proper venue for the perpetrators of the 9/11 attacks.”  

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Mine was 123 today Dusty. It

Mine was 123 today Dusty. It is slowly coming down. Maybe I can have a coke some day. lol

Morning morning America and

Morning morning

America and Americans are generous and loving. There are a few hate-filled mongrels l ike you. Always spewing hate towards this country and it's people.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/america-unmasked-the-images-that-reveal-the-ku-klux-klan-is-alive-and-kicking-in-2009-1625732.html

By: Kosh III on 2/3/10 at

By: Kosh III on 2/3/10 at 7:43
War crime? When did Congress declare war as the constitution requires?

k3 - Bush did last week in a gay piano bar in dallas texas :)

Morning everybody - blood sugar was 74 this morning so I had to grab something to eat before I joined you - Loner in a cheerleader outfit waving pompoms - had trouble keeping the food down :)

An Iranian physicist Massoud

An Iranian physicist Massoud Ali-Mohammadi, was assasssinated last month in Tehran. Again, the prime suspect is the state of Israel. Here's a link:

http://news.xinhuanet.com/english2010/world/2010-01/19/c_13141473.htm

Hey, the Israelis have used assassination as a tactic since the earliest days, they killed the UN's first peace envoy, Count Bernadotte, in 1948.

Mordechai Vanunu and others claim that the Mossad had a hand in the JFK assassination, as JFK did not want Israel to get nukes.

With Obama's popularity, in Israel, in the single digits, anything can happen. Stay tuned.

sid - OOPS That should be

sid - OOPS That should be that maybe you "don't" know how!

sid - maybe you just to know

sid - maybe you just to know how to construct a comment. You addressed D7 and what I responded to was the last sentence in that comment. If not a slur, what was it? Surely you aren't naive enough to think I was referring the your l ike!

According to David Poile, no

According to David Poile, no hockey players have been used in any military operation to date.

More of Dragon's hysteria...

By: bfra on 2/3/10 at

By: bfra on 2/3/10 at 8:12
sid - There are a few hate-filled mongrels l ike you. Always spewing hate towards this country and it's people.

Aren't you starting the slurs a bit early!

What does that mean? A typo is not a slur! Or don't you know the difference? There are a lot of typos on this post. Why are you off subject?

Can't you focus this early?

sid - There are a few

sid - There are a few hate-filled mongrels l ike you. Always spewing hate towards this country and it's people.

Aren't you starting the slurs a bit early!

We could do as the Israelis

We could do as the Israelis appear to have done last week. A top Hamas military leader, Mahmoud al-Mabhouh, was assassinated in a Dubai hotel room. According to reports, he was electrocuted with some kind of device applied to his head, he was injected with a heart-stopping drug, suffocated with a pillow and was also beaten before he died. His documents were photo'd and a "Do Not Disturb" sign was hung on the door.

Here's a link:
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/world/israel-is-prime-suspect-in-killing-of-hamas-official/article1452667/

"We simply cannot execute

"We simply cannot execute them in front of a firing squad without due process.
That would be barbaric."

The use of Predators to strike enclaves amounts to execution without trial. Plus the added collateral deaths. "War is hell".

By: dargent7 on 2/3/10 at

By: dargent7 on 2/3/10 at 7:51
Ms. Ames: When the USA isn't bombing and occupying weaker countries, the rest of it's activities are for "show".

D7 I don't think the American people would appreciate you saying that after they showed up in Haiti (as third according to you), but now they are running front and center with contributions and aid and people going to help.

We'll be helping Haiti for years. How long will China be there? Oh yeah, China can sent those poison laden toys and jewelry that they tried to sell to our children. That will help! (sarcastic comment)

America and Americans are generous and loving. There are a few hate-filled mongrels l ike you. Always spewing hate towards this country and it's people.

We are giving this criminal

We are giving this criminal during war time a red carpet celebrity treatment. HE is not an American and therefore not entitled to be treated as one.

Obama started this mess in his campaign speeches. "I'm gonna close gitmo". I have read reports that Gitmo is an O.K. prison. After all, why do they deserve to have a palace.

Now Obama has proposed to renovate some prison in Illinois to house them. WE can't afford to renovate anything.

And by the way, Nevada now hates him cause he's opened his piehole and run down the LasVegas scene 2 times now. Gov. of LV says no apology will be accepted this second time. Guess he's put his big foot in his mouth this time.

Ms. Ames: When the USA

Ms. Ames: When the USA isn't bombing and occupying weaker countries, the rest of it's activities are for "show".
Mirandizing, providing lawyers, holding the trial in front of a jury, is the American way.
We simply cannot execute them in front of a firing squad without due process.
That would be barbaric.
So, at a cost of $1 billion, we'll provide a circus atmosphere pretending the whole world is watching us be really civil, evolved, and men of God.
"KSM" will probably get a hung jury, mistrial, and be playing golf with O.J. within a year.

The only person I

The only person I communicate outside this board (except telepathically w/ "eastnashville") is Clouse.
He and I have over 10 LTE's in the pipeline waiting for distribution.
Topics range from politics, environment, religion, and the female sexual response.
I thought Vinnie would publish the "Female Orgasm" LTE, by now, for sure.

War crime? When did

War crime? When did Congress declare war as the constitution requires?

Washington (CNN) --

Washington (CNN) -- President Obama is asking for more than $230 million in the 2011 budget to buy and prepare an idle Illinois prison to house terrorism suspects now detained at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba. The Justice Department budget for 2011 unveiled Monday calls for about $172 million for the federal government to acquire and renovate the state-owned prison in Thomson, Illinois, and another $66 million to eventually staff and equip it.

Can someone tell me why we should make special arrangements for war criminals such as the Sheikh? He admitted he was guilty. He is guilty and would kill everyone on CP postings if he could.

So, logically speaking, why does he deserve the rights of a U.S. citizen? After all he committed the crime as a war crime. So why not a war time military commission?

Loner: "Serr8d got out?

Loner: "Serr8d got out? When?

Thank you, D7. Vinnie T. has

Thank you, D7. Vinnie T. has my OK to cut and paste my comments. I don't think that it's wise to alienate our host.

I put up a journal entry over the weekend, so far, only Serr8d has commented; again, here's the URL:

http://new-york-loner.livejournal.com/

They waterboarded this "KSM"

They waterboarded this "KSM" a-hole 187 times....2 years ago. Did we get bin Laden's home address or e-mail screen name? No. We had a 21 year old punk with explosives sewn to his testicles.
al-Qaeda spends $5.00 and change to bring the USA to it's collective knees.

Another reason is that the

Another reason is that the trials will happen during this election year and will be prominent in the news. The GOP does not want our President to appear strong.

Notice how Corker's talking

Notice how Corker's talking point commentary includes words like "terrorists", "perpetrators" and "enemy combatants" to describe those who have yet to face trial or get their day in court. Nowhere will you find any Republican politician refering to these men as "suspects". Oh no, these guys are already guilty as sin... the evidence = waterboarded confessions.

Let's face the facts, both Corker and Lindsay would admit to being responsible for the 9-11 attacks, if waterboarded sufficiently. If these suspects are tried in a US Court, they could beat the rap, simply because their confessions were coerced. This would be an enormous embarassment for Junior Bush and Dick Cheney. Protecting their legacy is part of the dynamic in play here.

Loner: Your post is right

Loner: Your post is right on. TCP should run that as a LTE, not re-packaged mayoral speeches.

Confessions obtained under

Confessions obtained under duress, such as repeated waterboarding, would be inadmissable as evidence in a bona fide US Court of Law.. This is the real reason why many politicians want the trials to be handled by the military, where coercion is a more acceptable tool for gathering evidenciary material.

Good morning,

Good morning, Nashville!

This is a "bipartisan" effort to prevent the Justice Dept. from trying the waterboarded Sheikh? With baby-faced Graham and Corker behind it, this sure smells like another Republican effort to obstruct Obama's agenda.

What's going on here is a subtle effort to keep Gitmo open, indefinitely. If painting President Obama as a naive and back-pedalling buffoon is the goal, the longer that Gitmo remains operational the better,

Americans should never forget that Cuba owns the land on which the Guantanamo Naval Base is located. The Cubans have never cashed a single US rent check for that base, since the 1959 revolution. We are illegally occupying a base on foreign soil and we are doing so in order to circumvent the US Constitution and the Geneva Conventions.

In spite of our larcenous ways and war criminal intent, we still think of ourselves as occupying the moral high ground. When it comes to self-delusion, we Americans are the world champions.

He's probably trying to make

He's probably trying to make sure opinions are about current topics. If you wrote a letter more than a week ago, it's probably irrelevant.

Full of pi$$ & vinegar this

Full of pi$$ & vinegar this morning, d7?

Nice speech "Vinnie T."

Nice speech "Vinnie T." Where's the "Letters to the Editor"?
I don't want to read "lifted" (out of context) excerpts from the Mayor or Governor's speeches. What's your point?