Viewpoints: A junior Palin?

Monday, February 22, 2010 at 11:44pm

Harold Ford, Jr.'s dip into New York senatorial waters is turning out well for incumbent Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand, who is distancing Ford and gaining on former governor George Pataki.

Now, we'll see how far Monday's comment about Ford by her spokesperson will take her:

"With his constant attacks on President Obama's agenda, Harold Ford Jr. sounds more like Sarah Palin and the Republican spin machine than a New York Democrat who is proud of their President," said Gillibrand spokesman Glen Caplin. "Senator Gillibrand is proud to be working with the President to pass a jobs bill that will create new opportunities for workers and health care reform that will lower costs for everyone."

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179 Comments on this post:

By: Blanketnazi2 on 2/23/10 at 11:50

so they gave you antibiotics?

By: brrrrk on 2/23/10 at 11:50

"Nature hath made men so equal in the faculties of body and mind as that, though there be found one man sometimes manifestly stronger in body or of quicker mind than another, yet when all is reckoned together the difference between man and man is not so considerable as that one man can thereupon claim to himself any benefit to which another may not pretend as well as he." - Thomas Hobbes

Or as Jefferson put it in the Declaration Of Independence, "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal"....

Well, unless you're gay and live in the state of Virginia.

By: Funditto on 2/23/10 at 11:51

My son is having neurosurgery tomorrow. Keep your fingers crossed that he doesn't get it from dad. My worst nightmare!

By: MamaG on 2/23/10 at 11:53

Yes, I had a bad infection in my ears, throat and glands. Miserable. That was the weekend I went to ATL and I seemed to get better. I had to go to the ENT already last week, so he put me on another round because it seems to be coming back. My son now has ear and throat infection. Whole point: I thought it was just sinus when it first started because of the drainage.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 2/23/10 at 11:54

Good luck, Funditto! *hug*

By: MamaG on 2/23/10 at 11:55

By: Funditto on 2/23/10 at 10:51
My son is having neurosurgery tomorrow. Keep your fingers crossed that he doesn't get it from dad. My worst nightmare!

Fun, I will keep you and your son in my prayers.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 2/23/10 at 12:08

Cheney hospitalized with chest pains. Doctors make efforts not to get sucked into the black vortex where his heart should be. (cnn.com)

By: BenDover on 2/23/10 at 12:18

I like Harold Jr. I would have voted him over Corker except that a vote for him was a vote to give the uber-lefties control of the Senate. I guess if I'd known we'd lose the senate anyway Ford could have been a moderating voice in the majority party... I don't know.

Party seems more important than the person now, though, because of how the system operates.

Sorry if someone else has already made these points. I don't have time to read all of the posts.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 2/23/10 at 12:20

Ben, unfortunately i believe you are correct that party seems more important that the person.

By: bfra on 2/23/10 at 12:20

Off subject: Just read one of many articles about the professor that killed 3 people in Huntsville AL. A child was killed in Madison AL at a middle school about the same day. Have only seen 1 bit of info about this as an add-on of an article about this prof. This was a child, shot by another child. Does the media, just not care?

By: Funditto on 2/23/10 at 12:21

I agree. And am not so sure that's a good thing, tho some would say so.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 2/23/10 at 12:21

bfra, call me cynical but i don't the the media has cared in a very long time, if ever.

By: bfra on 2/23/10 at 12:24

Fun: Didn't read about your son until after my last post.

Here's wishing everything goes well with your son and a speedy recovery.

By: BenDover on 2/23/10 at 12:25

Hey... you've got to watch who you shake your stick at in VA, brrrrrk.

By: Kosh III on 2/23/10 at 12:31

"Well, unless you're gay and live in the state of Virginia."

or Tennessee or many states which still support inequality based solely on religious opinion.

By: BenDover on 2/23/10 at 12:44

Statutes against murder and stealing are based on religious opinion. Legal precedents involving adultery in civil cases of divorce are based on religious opinion. In fact almost all of western civilization is based on Judeo-Christian religious opinion.

To throw this foundation out is to abide only by the whims of whoever is in charge of a situation at the moment... be it an individual or state.

By: Kosh III on 2/23/10 at 12:50

Are you saying being born gay is as evil as murder?
And why don't you demand that divorce be abolished and that adulterers be stoned as the Bible says?
Where's the constitutional amendment against divorce and adultery? Be consist, hate one hate all.

By: brrrrk on 2/23/10 at 1:21

BenDover said

"Statutes against murder and stealing are based on religious opinion. Legal precedents involving adultery in civil cases of divorce are based on religious opinion. In fact almost all of western civilization is based on Judeo-Christian religious opinion."

Wrong! Our system of government (while religion has had it's influence) is primarily based on English Common Law (among other things).... which if you do just a little research, you will find that English Common Law predates any religious influence. English Common Law existed long before Christianity was introduced to the English Isles.

By: MamaG on 2/23/10 at 1:58

chirp, chirp

House, you were right, we DO need sound effects!

By: house_of_pain on 2/23/10 at 1:59

No kiddin'.

By: MamaG on 2/23/10 at 2:01

WOODLAND HILLS, Calif. (AP) - Doug Fieger, leader of the power pop band The Knack who sang on the 1979 hit "My Sharona," has died. He was 57.

RIP

By: house_of_pain on 2/23/10 at 2:05

Power pop band? They're giving them too much credit with that.
One hit wonder is closer to the truth.

By: slacker on 2/23/10 at 2:07

ok... brrrrk walks into a biker bar, quoting Mark Twain...

By: house_of_pain on 2/23/10 at 2:09

Is the bar in Virginia?

By: slacker on 2/23/10 at 2:11

no..no pain, Muscle Shoals Alabama.

By: MamaG on 2/23/10 at 2:13

Slacker, that reminds me--did you (or do you) know Rual Yarbrough? He was from the Muscle Shoals area.

By: MamaG on 2/23/10 at 2:14

House, I just took it to mean, they weren't acoustic.

By: slacker on 2/23/10 at 2:20

MamaG, I don't think I know the gentleman.
Which means he's probably successful.

By: brrrrk on 2/23/10 at 2:24

slacker on 2/23/10 at 1:07

"ok... brrrrk walks into a biker bar, quoting Mark Twain..."

ROFLMAO..... don't forget Thomas Paine, Abraham Lincoln, Thomas Jefferson, Adam Smith, and Teddy Roosevelt..... screw Ayn Rand though, that b*tch was crazy!

By: brrrrk on 2/23/10 at 2:26

slacker, one more thing.... I cut my teeth playing biker bars with biker bands. Ahhhh, the good ol' days.

By: MamaG on 2/23/10 at 2:29

slacker, he plays but, he had a music store down there.
DANG! I just googled him and found he has a MySpace page! Never would've thought it! I forgot, he did play with Bill for a while but really, who didn't? :-)

do you know Gordon Reid?

By: slacker on 2/23/10 at 2:30

''There ain't no revolution, only evolution''.
Duane Allman

By: brrrrk on 2/23/10 at 2:32

"but every time I'm in Georgia I 'eat a peach' for peace."

By: MamaG on 2/23/10 at 2:33

I ate peach cobbler today for peace (and harmony).

By: brrrrk on 2/23/10 at 2:36

Slacker, sometimes you forget that Southern rock bands used to be fairly enlightened. The remainders have pretty much become southern parodies; old men yelling at the kids on their yards.

By: slacker on 2/23/10 at 2:39

MamaG, I don't believe I know that gentleman either.
Nobody whose name comes up in a goggle search, would associate with me.

By: slacker on 2/23/10 at 2:40

brrrrk, I agree.

By: MamaG on 2/23/10 at 2:41

LOL, slacker!

By: brrrrk on 2/23/10 at 3:30

The problem with the GOP's approach to government is that they always believe that smaller is better, regardless of the real effect. The reality is that they are so heavily invested in the ideas of privatization that they fail to realize that small isn't always the answer; government failing is the only justification for their ideology. In short, they have no interest in government succeeding.

It was Homer Ferguson, a president of the Camber of Commerce who said, "A thoroughly first-rate man in public service is corrosive. He eats holes in out liberties. The better he is and the longer he stays the greater the danger. If he is an enthusiast - a bright-eyed madman who is frantic to make this the finest government in the world - the black plague is a housepet by comparison."

To put it bluntly, the more government fails, the better for private industries.

By: BenDover on 2/23/10 at 3:41

How freakin' big do you want it, brrrrk?

By: brrrrk on 2/23/10 at 4:05

BenDover said

"How freakin' big do you want it, brrrrk?"

It's not about big or small, it's about being the right size to do the job. Would you field a football team with anything less than 11 players on the offensive line? If we cut the funding for programs like the FDA to the point were it becomes ineffective, would you be willing to sacrifice one of your children (or any family member for that matter) for the sake of smaller government. Chances are you'd be the first one bitching up a storm.

By: brrrrk on 2/23/10 at 4:22

One more thing Ben.....

Why is it that you don't hear most Western Europeans bitching about the amount of taxes that they pay (well everyone complains about taxes, but not like we do)?

It's because they actually get something for it. They understand that in order to get steak, you usually have to pay the price for steak. We're still under the impression that we can pay hamburger prices and get steak.... and then bitch when we don't get steak. Or bitch when the steak we DO get sucks. DUH!

By: BenDover on 2/23/10 at 4:48

Hey Brrrk... I'm for letting government get as big as it can if only you'd tax people an equal percentage. Give everyone a vested interest in the cost of government and then let it seek it's own level. My prediction is that government would then seek to a level much smaller than it is now that gets a lot more done.

Public benefits need to be balanced against public responsibility in a system where everyone gets only one vote. Otherwise you get an ridiculously expensive, often corrupt and politically motivated bureaucracy that doesn't get anything positive done even though it's already ridiculously over-funded.

By: house_of_pain on 2/23/10 at 4:48

If our government weren't so inept, we could have fantastic services for the amount we currently pay in taxes.

By: brrrrk on 2/23/10 at 4:58

house_of_pain said

"If our government weren't so inept, we could have fantastic services for the amount we currently pay in taxes."

Justify that..... Do you get your mail everyday, do you know of anyone that hasn't gotten their social security check? Can you differentiate between ineptness and underfunding? I've worked as a contractor for some of the biggest companies in the country and I've got to tell you, I've seen shameless inefficiencies and ineptness that would be hard to beat. it's one thing to say that government is inept because you think it is, but without proof an opinion is just an opinion.

By: slacker on 2/23/10 at 5:11

brrrrk, the government has taken over a famous ice cream company, and is now producing its own flavor.

Its called Barracky Road, a blend of vanilla and chocolate, and surrounded with nuts and flakes.

Cost $100 a scoop.

By: house_of_pain on 2/23/10 at 5:12

I've seen it from the inside, brrrrk. Money gets wasted. Almost impossible to get fired from many gov't. positions.
Too much "you scratch my back...".

By: BenDover on 2/23/10 at 5:15

SSI is broke to the core. If a private company took 15% of your income and promised you a stupid $1500 a month life annunity whose value evaporates upon death they would be thrown in jail; yet SSI is broke and can't even make that ridiculously expensive investment product work.

The postal service is a machine... I'll give you that. But even with it's massive infrastructure the private companies routinely kick it's @$$ on priority, etc... otherwise there would be no private companies like FedEx and UPS.

The thing about private companies being inept is that it dosen't cost me anything unless I deal with that company.

I, however, am punished by government's ineptness at a disproportionate rate... and since a small minority of voters pay the vast majority of taxes most people don't have any vested interest in how much government costs so it just keeps getting worse.

And why didn't you bring up education in your examples. Even in inflation constant dollars we've suffered Increasing costs to declining results for my whole lifetime.

By: dargent7 on 2/23/10 at 5:19

brrrrk is right on the money. The ineptness of private cos. is on par with the government, just on a smaller scale.
If you get fired from a private co., you can sue on a much faster track than suing any government agency. Small to medium size cos. will settle quicker to avoid bad press. The gov't, state, and local, can bury you in paper work for a decade.

By: house_of_pain on 2/23/10 at 5:27

I'll agree with d7 & brrrrk about the lack of concern & effort permeating private cos., as well as in the gov't...it's the new "American Way". How much can I get away with. Sad.