Viewpoints: Rep explains his health care vote

Tuesday, March 23, 2010 at 12:04am

Declaring it an effort to bring down the skyrocketing costs of health care for Middle Tennesseans and reduce the nation’s budget deficit, Congressman Bart Gordon voted in favor of health care reform legislation. Here, he explains why:

“The bill passed [Sunday] will reduce health care costs for families and small businesses; improve access to affordable care, regardless of pre-existing conditions; and lower our budget deficit,” Gordon said. “This bill will bring about major, commonsense remedies to our system that most Tennesseans agree are necessary, and it will do so while remaining fiscally responsible.

“Over the years, many Middle Tennesseans have told me how their families have struggled to get adequate and affordable health care. I voted for them today — people like Sherry in Eagleville whose family was evicted when medical bills wiped out their income; Rita in Liberty whose epileptic son was denied insurance; Beverly in Cookeville who could not get employee-based health care even though she and her husband both worked.

“Because health care accounts for one out of every five dollars of the federal budget, this bill will be critical to the strength of our economy, our families and our nation’s fiscal solvency. We’ve debated this issue for almost a full year. Now is the time to move forward, look at how it benefits families and small businesses, and address the economic challenges our communities are facing.”

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273 Comments on this post:

By: dooley on 3/22/10 at 11:22

Way to go Bart.

By: bfra on 3/23/10 at 2:46

Dooley - Per Bendover's comment yesterday, referring to other posters as "commoners", did you get his expertise approval before posting today? Ben failed to mention what his TITLE was and when he received it!

By: Loner on 3/23/10 at 5:16

Good morning, Nashville!

Rep. Gordon has wasted no time in trotting out three "Joes" to illustrate his point. Unlike "Joe the Plumber", these "Joe (or Josephine) the Healthcare Consumer" individuals will be sought by both parties to prove their respective points.

Gordon's "Joes" are happy campers named "Sherry", "Rita" and "Beverly". Stand by for disgruntled Republican Joes ,who wil claim that Obamacare has ruined their lives. It will be the Battle of the Testimonials from now on.

My advice to the pols is to make sure that "Joe" and :"Josephine" have been completely vetted before trotting them out before the cameras.

The original "Joe" (the Plumber) has now taken to biting the GOP hand that elevated him from obscurity to the national spotlight. He wasn't properly vetted by McCain's people and it now seems that Sarah Palin was not vetted propely either. John McCain is a perennial screw-up; he created a monster that could bring down the GOP....Go Sarah, Go!

By: dooley on 3/23/10 at 6:04

bfra ben was probably promoted king by Dr. Fasbender of 'Whats new pussycat fame'. or maybe idgaf bestowed that honor on him . BEN MEANS WELL BUT SOMETIMES CANNIBUS GETS TO HIM AND HE HALLUCINATES AND HAS VISIONS OF GRANDEUR.

By: dargent7 on 3/23/10 at 6:07

What was really interesting, was all the archive footage of past Presidents attempting to reform National Health Care. Starting with Taft!
G HW Bush had "imminent" needs, as did Bill Clinton....both failed.
It is an idea who's time has come!

By: oyharward on 3/23/10 at 6:07

Our federal government is fiscally bankrupt. In spite of this reality, many on Capitol Hill, like Congressman Bart Gordon, refuse the fiscal source of our government budgets. Americans are awake. Americans are hurting financially, and are screaming on Capitol Hill to stop the unnecessary spending.

When will our elected big-spenders on Capitol Hill like, Congressman Bart Gordon, awaken and smell the coffee?

Today, our economy is hurting with high unemployment with existing jobs deteriorating, fewer new jobs being created, and high taxes. With these economical failures, many on Capitol Hill, like Congressman Bart Gordon, continue to spend as there is no end on funding.

ObamaCare legislation, as approved, will now bring increased insurance costs, more personal insurance deductibles, less accessibilities for Medicare and Medicaid as physicians reject reduced services. ObamaCare brings higher taxes and additional government penalties. Reports shows up to 42% of our physicians are suggesting they will abandon the medical profession, rather than accept the ObamaCare bureaucratic reduced rates. Above all, ObamaCare brings more government jurisdiction with more government regulations and other intrusions. This additional government power will need more government jobs; thus requiring higher taxes. These reasons are why our economy with the implementation of ObamaCare, our free economy will deteriorate, rather than expand.

Democrats on Capitol Hill, like Congressman Bart Gordon, continue to disregard the will of their own constituents, as political polls show most Americans oppose ObamaCare as presented. Most Americans support different healthcare reform as Democrat Party leaders have presented ObamaCare only. Americans want healthcare improvements to start with tort reform. The Democrat Party leaders discard that notion.

Democrat Party leaders, like Congressman Bart Gordon, on Capitol Hill continue to say healthcare is a ‘right’. It is as if these leaders fall short of understanding ‘rights’ come from God and our US Constitution; not from within the intellect of a radical left-wing politician. It is my opinion that SCOTUS will find, if in question, that ‘healthcare’ is not a protected ‘right’ under our US Constitution, and further, legislators on Capitol Hill cannot mandate citizens to purchase healthcare.

America needs new leadership in Washington, DC who believes in tax reductions, less government regulations, and more gratis for new and existing jobs in an open, limitless, and friendly economy. President Obama verbalizes he supports a free and open market, but he seems to govern contradictory to his own expressions, and sadly, Congressman Bart Gordon follows Obama’s lead.

By: dnewton on 3/23/10 at 6:10

Bart Fails to mention what changed between the no vote and the yes vote. I heard he might be working for NASA soon. They need a lot of help over there to get that climate data right.

By: dooley on 3/23/10 at 6:11

I don't know about all those Joe;s but I think that mcCains monstrer may bring down the GOP eventually but I think she has propably already done him in. He's gotten to where he sounds foolish when he speaks lately and looks like a zombie.

By: dooley on 3/23/10 at 6:14

Take your prozac oyharward and chase it with some coffee . you're kind of disoriented this morning.

By: dooley on 3/23/10 at 6:16

scu-me Ben I for got to say may I.

By: dooley on 3/23/10 at 6:18

Everyone talks about Gore being boring -Bart puts him to shame .

By: BEOWULF on 3/23/10 at 6:41

BEOWULF: Did Gordon say he wasn't running for re-election? Either way, Barry Soetoro supporters have little chance anyway!

By: Captain Nemo on 3/23/10 at 6:46

Good morning.

It looks like the far right fringe will need to be tranquilized or they will bust a blood vein. Then again maybe that would not be so bad.
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By: Captain Nemo on 3/23/10 at 7:07

It is a collection of tea baggers intellect.

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My favorite
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By: Loner on 3/23/10 at 7:15

This post is brought to you by the Java Junction, coffee roasters and purveyors, in downtown, historic Brockport, NY.

Somebody threw a brick, with a note attached, through the plate glass doors to the Monroe County Democratic party HQ in Rochester....the authorities have traced the prank to an Alabama website that encourages these sorts of brick throwing missives.....a Barry Goldwater quote was attached to the hurled brick....the notorious line about extremism in the cause of l;iberty not being a vice.

Any word-smith brickwork in Nashville lately?

This window-breaking tactic reminds me of the infamous Chrystalnacht (Chrystal night) incidents in Nazi Germany; many historians agree, that was Act One of the Holocaust.

We have on-camera spitting, "N-word" and "fag" namecalling leveled at Democratic lawmakers and now broken glass. Where is the Republican condemnation of these Nazi-like tactics?

Limbaugh called for "wiping out" the Democrats, on his radio show yesterday....how long before the "open-season on Democrats" shooting begins?

By: alanhuffman on 3/23/10 at 7:17

Well done... this was needed. Our path was unsustainable. We have far to go, but at least we've started to change the trajectory.

By: sidneyames on 3/23/10 at 7:23

By: dargent7 on 3/23/10 at 7:07
What was really interesting, was all the archive footage of past Presidents attempting to reform National Health Care. Starting with Taft!
G HW Bush had "imminent" needs, as did Bill Clinton....both failed.
It is an idea who's time has come!

D7, I will agree that "it is an idea that's time has come". But for whom? Most intelligent, walking upright humans in this country HAVE INSURANCE OR MEANS TO PAY FOR MEDICAL.

Why didn't we just fix the problem for the thousands who don't? Why do a "blanket" mandate? That is offensive to my intelligence. Why not re-structure the insurance industry? Why not sign up ONLY the dis-advantaged?

DUH? And a small correction on your otherwise hyper-intelligent statement: It's a "what" or a "that". Ideas are things, not "who's". Or if an idea is a "who" then who is it?

By: dargent7 on 3/23/10 at 7:28

Loner: I'll break it down, so even a 5th grader can understand it:
Obama won in 2008 which completely freaked out the GOP. How could a black man beat a white war hero? Seemed an impossibility.
Unlike the "swift boaters" who sidelined John Kerry or the Supreme Court who handed GW Bush an election he didn't win, Obama overcame all "birthers" and assorted nuts and challenges.
Then, he gets Health Care reform passed, whereas prior Republicans couldn't.
His success makes them insane, and exposes their hypocracy in the process.
It's a great day for Americans.

By: sidneyames on 3/23/10 at 7:29

By: alanhuffman on 3/23/10 at 8:17
Well done... this was needed. Our path was unsustainable. We have far to go, but at least we've started to change the trajectory.

Yes, well done. Now the insurance stocks will skyrocket, and the insurance companies will tend to fare better than the average joe or jane who is FORCED to purchase a product.

Hey, alan, I want all men in America to start wearing jock straps. So I'm going to campaign that we Mandate it or you all get fined. How does that make you feel?

Good? I mean, I 'm sick of men getting to let it all hang loose. Tighten up brother. A government mandated jock strap is on the horizon.

By: Captain Nemo on 3/23/10 at 7:30

The war closer, Loner.

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By: dargent7 on 3/23/10 at 7:32

Sidiot: What's with your stubborn refusal to acknowlege facts concerning American health care?
31 million have NO insurance of any kind.
45,000 a year DIE traced to having NO health insurance, NO doctor visits, NO medicine, NO care.
"Pre-existing" conditions affect 50% of everyone over 35. They CANNOT get insurance.
Insurance premiums skyrocket each year.
People use the ER as their primary physician. The "bill" is 10x that of a Drs. visit.
The #1 reason Americans file for bankruptcy is medical bills.
Got milk?

By: Blanketnazi2 on 3/23/10 at 7:35

good morning.

By: sidneyames on 3/23/10 at 7:37

D7 said "Pre-existing" conditions affect 50% of everyone over 35. They CANNOT get insurance.Insurance premiums skyrocket each year."

And I replied: Then change that part of the insurance industry. Duh!

D7 said "31 million have NO insurance of any kind. 45,000 a year DIE traced to having NO health insurance, NO doctor visits, NO medicine, NO care."

And I replied: "And change THAT part also. BUT don't pick on the other 300 million who are O.K."

Look, D7, they could change PART of the insurance industry or ALL of it. They could help the disadvantaged part of the population WITHOUT affecting the other part.

What about food stamps? Can we all get them? I mean some poor people go hungry and get food stamps. So why not order the entire U.S. to use food stamps?

Or deodorant? Some people stink. Others don't. Why not order the entire U.S. to stink along with this MANDATED INSURANCE PLAN.

By: Loner on 3/23/10 at 7:38

OyHarward wants leaders who "believe in tax reductions, less government regulations, and more gratis for new and existing jobs in an open, limitless, and friendly economy."

In that case, Oy should support getting the burden of providing health care coverage off the backs of America's employers. In those countries with nationalized healthcare programs in place, employers are relieved of that burden. The costs of their products are naturally cheaper than the same product produced here, where the cost of healthcare (for the workers who produced the product or service) is embedded in the MSRP.

The much-maligned labor unions would be deprived of a major bargaining point, if healthcare coverage was divorced from other workplace compensation.

One might think that conservatives would recognize those two major points and support nationalized healthcare. But no, they have been misled by radio and TV talkshow hate speech and lobbyist talking points.

By: Captain Nemo on 3/23/10 at 7:38

d7 here is sid in action

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By: sidneyames on 3/23/10 at 7:40

D7, I acknowledge there is a problem with SOME parts. So all parts don't need to be fixed. And now they are being dragged into a quagmire with the rest.

If your little toe needs to be amputated, do you want your entire fricking foot cut off?

If you car needs air in the tire, do you want to buy 4 new tires.

If your right eye goes blind, do you want to just put out the other eye to relieve you of the misery of only seeing 1/2 the world?

NO, to GOVERNMENT MANDATED HEALTH INSURANCE. HELL NO!

By: Loner on 3/23/10 at 7:45

Nemo, the URL is flawed? Firefox could not open it.

By: dargent7 on 3/23/10 at 7:46

Sidiot: The bill Congress passed is a start. 16 states are suing, 100% of all Republicans swear on their mommy's graves they will get it overturned, so it isn't a done deal.
All I can keep comming back to is you Republican morons found no fault or problem with GW Bush lying about Iraq, and spending $800 billion there in only 7 years, yet get a mental break down if Obama wants to spend $1 trillion over a decade strictly for Americans.
You really give a sh**t Iraqi's can vote? Cost you $800 billion. You really care?

By: dargent7 on 3/23/10 at 7:47

Loner: To access Nemo's URL's, you first have to open The Three Stooges' portal.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 3/23/10 at 7:50

i was flipping channels last night and saw the folks on Fox having a fit. looked just like a child's temper tantrum. according to them the healthcare bill only had 14% public support, Harry Reid's approval rating is 11% and Pelosi's is 8%. LOL

By: Captain Nemo on 3/23/10 at 7:52

Try this Loner
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By: house_of_pain on 3/23/10 at 7:52

Will my gov't. subsidy kick in automatically, or do I need to sign up for it?

By: BenDover on 3/23/10 at 7:55

Bart... blow me... a kiss as you're leavin'...

The rest of you may comment, at will, until further notice.

By: Loner on 3/23/10 at 7:55

D7, the right-wingers are always willing to pay for guns, but never willing to pay for butter. The lefties are always willing to pay for butter and they are willing to pay for guns all too often.

Yesterday, Doctor Dover tried to claim that the Iraq invasion had broad bipartisan support, that's a stretch, only 29 Democratic Senators caved in to WH and AIPAC pressure on the invasion vote.

By: BenDover on 3/23/10 at 7:58

House, Obama promised $2500 a year savings per family. Just drop him a note... I'm sure he'll spot you the difference until your savings kick in.

By: Loner on 3/23/10 at 8:00

LOL, Nemo. Driving off a cliff while listening to Limbaugh on the AM radio...Yeeeee...Hawww!

By: slacker on 3/23/10 at 8:02

Well the Brooklyn bridge has been sold once again.
And President Obama has created job's, or job, for our own Bart Gordon.
Dear Bart intends to stay, and live in Washington, D.C., even though his heart longs to come home to Tennessee.
What a guy, he done it for us. or maybe to us.

By: oyharward on 3/23/10 at 8:02

To: Loner

One of the differences to "believe in tax reductions, less government regulations, and more gratis for new and existing jobs in an open, limitless, and friendly economy." is jobs. If someone is able to find a job, he/she may be able to have healthcare from his/her employer. The employee may be able to purchase healthcare from his/her income. The employee may be forced to depend on Medicaid. Otherwise, the employee may be healthy. In each instance, he/she may be able to function financially on a normal basis. Either of these options will leave the employee better off than depending entirely on the government.

A free economy must compete in a world economy. In some instances, healthcare cost may prevent a company from being able to compete in the marketplace. There are great and/or above average jobs. There are average jobs, and there are lower mediocre jobs, with all matching with qualified employees. Don’t put all employers and/or employees on the same socialistic level.

Again, the differences may be jobs. Americans need jobs now!

By: Loner on 3/23/10 at 8:06

Ben suggests: "Obama promised $2500 a year savings per family. Just drop him a note"... should we use a Sharpie marker to scribble the note on a throwable brick?

By: dargent7 on 3/23/10 at 8:06

If McCain/ Palin got the keys to the WH, they'd be knee deep in bombing Iran and N. Korea. No health care reform, to be sure.
All the Tea Baggers, Townies, Birthers would'nt have been invented.
Obama is shaking things up, taking us on a road where many more Americans might live a healthier life.
If Republicans aren't engaged in violence, warfare, and imperialism on all fronts, their moral compass is askew and they're a lost people.
For some ungodly reason, they cannot feel the need to help those here at home.

By: Captain Nemo on 3/23/10 at 8:08

Ben see the world in little bit deferent than most people
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By: bfra on 3/23/10 at 8:10

Nemo: That's a keeper! Fits perfectly!

By: bfra on 3/23/10 at 8:12

Ben will probably have trouble looking down on other people from that position. Little does he realize, when he looks down from his faux ivory tower, after dark, he is only seeing vagrants and homeless people.

By: sidneyames on 3/23/10 at 8:17

d7 SAID "People use the ER as their primary physician. The "bill" is 10x that of a Drs. visit. The #1 reason Americans file for bankruptcy is medical bills.
Got milk?

d7, The ER problem can be fixed with RULES. The #1 reason Americans file for bankruptcy is 'because they can'. I filed Chapter 13, reorganization in 1991. Made a 5 year plan to pay it back at 100%. Court ordered us 75%. We requested 100% CAUSE WE OWED 100% and needed some time to re-group after large medical bills.

So, AFTER the bankruptcy was paid off, we LEARNED OUR LESSON. Now we just want the Gov-ment out of our business.

Regarding your question, Got milk? No, the cow went dry. And we're out of milk money. Got a gov-ment program that we can apply for to give us FREE food?

AND if you hate the IRS NOW, guess who's gonna be in charge of collecting the FINES for no insurance. YEP, THE GOOD OLD IRS IS IN CHARGE. Hmmmmm. Straight access to bank accounts through payroll. Happy yet, D7?

By: BenDover on 3/23/10 at 8:18

Now loner... you know that's a mischaracterization of the Iraq Resolution. 29 Democratic Senators works out to 58% including many familiar names like Clinton, Daschle, Dodd, Edwards, Feinstein, Kerry, Reid and Schumer. It was very bipartisan. Just like the vote to try to defeat the health care bill was bi-partisan. If you want to see partisan you have to look to the vote to pass the health care bill in the house Sunday. Almost unaminously democrats.

By: Captain Nemo on 3/23/10 at 8:18

Glad you like it Loner.

bfra, Ben has been like this for so long he thinks he thinks he is looking over the crowd.

By: sidneyames on 3/23/10 at 8:20

D7 said "You really give a sh**t Iraqi's can vote? Cost you $800 billion. You really care?"

D7, how much on Afghan has Obama spent? How much did Nancy Pelosi's face lift cost us?

The Iraq thing is over. Give it a rest. $800 billion is a mere drop in the GOVERNMENT'S BUCKET! So do you really care?

If you do, run for office and FIX It. Crap, you can't even fix the 1 billion dollar convention center that your favorite bro, Karl, is building. Who's gonna pay the maintenance on that albatross? You?

By: bfra on 3/23/10 at 8:22

Got it Nemo, should have known when he said, he is a school teacher. A large part of them (not all) have no common sense or logic!

By: Blanketnazi2 on 3/23/10 at 8:25

Pelosi's facelift? now you just have to make shit up in order to justify anger? wow.

By: sidneyames on 3/23/10 at 8:25

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Uncle sam paid for my phone so I could talk all day long.
Uncle sam paid for my dress and got me out of a big legal mess.
Uncle sam paid for my gas, so the rest of you can kiss my Uncle sam!

Yes, every breathing standing upright American citizen needs a Sugar Daddy named uncle Sam. All you gotta do is hollar and then he'll send you your dollars!

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