Viewpoints: Tennessee walks the walk

Thursday, February 11, 2010 at 10:06pm

From the Footprints for Peace organization:

People from around the world are converging at the Y-12 Nuclear Weapons Complex in Oak Ridge on Friday to begin a 700-mile walk for peace.

The protest, called International Footprints for Peace, will span three months and trek through six states.

Marcus Atkinson, the walk's organizer, says it will bring attention to all aspects of the nuclear industry and will demand progress on negotiations to create a nuclear-weapons-free world.

For more on the walk, click here.

 

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155 Comments on this post:

By: Captain Nemo on 2/12/10 at 10:03

Yeah, my blood's so mad feels like coagulatin'
I'm sitting here just contemplatin'
I can't twist the truth, it knows no regulation.
Handful of senators don't pass legislation
And marches alone can't bring integration
When human respect is disintegratin'
This whole crazy world is just too frustratin'

And you tell me
Over and over and over again, my friend
Ah, you don't believe
We're on the eve
of destruction.

By: MamaG on 2/12/10 at 10:04

Bfra, I think that's awesome about your daughter! You may be on to something about the buzzing needles, too! LOL

By: Captain Nemo on 2/12/10 at 10:08

Think of all the hate there is in Red China
Then take a look around to Selma, Alabama
You may leave here for 4 days in space
But when you return, it's the same old place
The poundin' of the drums, the pride and disgrace
You can bury your dead, but don't leave a trace
Hate your next-door neighbor, but don't forget to say grace
And… tell me over and over and over and over again, my friend
You don't believe
We're on the eve
Of destruction
Mm, no no, you don't believe
We're on the eve
of destruction.

I think this song can cover the generations that have gone by and to come.

By: Captain Nemo on 2/12/10 at 10:15

There are no accidents, only nature throwing her weight around. Even the bomb merely releases energy that nature has put there. Nuclear war would be just a spark in the grandeur of space. Nor can radiation ''alter'' nature: she will absorb it all. After the bomb, nature will pick up the cards we have spilled, shuffle them, and begin her game again.” - Camille Paglia

By: Blanketnazi2 on 2/12/10 at 10:17

i think Iran will change from within.

By: Captain Nemo on 2/12/10 at 10:20

“Ours is a world of nuclear giants and ethical infants. We know more about war that we know about peace, more about killing that we know about living.” -Omar Bradley

Hey dnewton I do know this much.

By: Captain Nemo on 2/12/10 at 10:21

Good morning Blanket.

I do too, but at what cost of lives?

By: sidneyames on 2/12/10 at 10:22

By: MamaG on 2/12/10 at 8:51
Dang it, Funditto! You mentioned the devil and up she jumped!

By sidney: So I can't get a Tat. And for the record, I think they are nice, but not for me.

Why, just yesterday you were saying how tattoos make you sick. You are more wishy-washy than any politician, sidney.

Mama I am not the devil. Thank you anyway.
And my disdane of tats is on old, flabby, formerly firm skin. YOu know, the kind that bodybuilders have at their peak and then they stop working out so the muscles fall a few notches and the tats get disfigured.

No I"m not wishy-washy. No more so than you or anyone else is.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 2/12/10 at 10:25

I agree, Nemo. but no power falls without the loss of life, unfortunately. i would rather see change come from within Iran, and I do believe it will. most Iranian citizens have a good opinion of the U.S. and do not want our assistance. they want to be responsible for their own change.

By: sidneyames on 2/12/10 at 10:27

January 28th, 2010
WASHINGTON - The US strongly condemned Iran’s execution of two dissidents Thursday, saying the murderous act was a “low point” in the Islamic state’s repression of political speech. “The US strongly condemns these unjust executions,” White House deputy spokesman Bill Burton said. “We see it as a low point in the Islamic Republic’s unjust and ruthless crackdown of peaceful dissent.”
Iran hung two dissidents early Thursday morning and sentenced nine others to die. Iran accused the two men, Mohammad-Reza Ali-Zamani and Arash Rahmanipour, of being members of monarchist groups plotting attacks against Islamic rule.

Americans are so blessed. We have peaceful protests all the time. No one get hung or run over by a tank (China). While we might not be a perfect country, we are at least a country that allows us freedom of speech, religion and other freedoms.

The ratio of haters to people who are accepting is small in comparison.

By: bfra on 2/12/10 at 10:27

Nemo - Bradley was a brilliant man. Sad that we don't have leaders today with his knowledge.

By: gdiafante on 2/12/10 at 10:29

I agree with that, Blanket, but if the change doesn't come as fast as Ahmadinejad's nuclear ambitions, we may not have a choice.

By: sidneyames on 2/12/10 at 10:30

And I'm not the subject today Mama, unless you want me to be. I didn't bring up "ME"; I am trying to stick to the topic "peace".

Care to join me in that quest?

"People from around the world are converging at the Y-12 Nuclear Weapons Complex in Oak Ridge on Friday to begin a 700-mile walk for peace."

I don't know if I could walk 7 miles, let alone 700; Do they take donations for the cause or are they self-funded? That's a lot of miles and time off from work.

By: gdiafante on 2/12/10 at 10:32

No Sid, they make you walk the entire 700 miles without rest. Then they kick you.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 2/12/10 at 10:32

i agree, g. i just hope that he's sidetracked by civil unrest and is eventually overthrown. one can hope....

By: dooley on 2/12/10 at 10:32

I think gdia is correct . He was addressing the use of nuclear weapons by Israel and the threat of their use if Iran obtains them , not the conventional back and forth between the Israeli's and Palistinians.

By: dargent7 on 2/12/10 at 10:34

let's see:
1) deliberate.....CHECK
2) systematic...2 atomic bombs, two different well populated cities/ targeted.....CHECK
3) National....Japan.....CHECK
4) racial...Japanese,ie., squinty eyes, chinks, gooks, foreiegn language....CHECK
5) political....Socialistic/ Communistic state, NOT a US modeled Democracy......CHECK
6) cultural group...see #4...CHECK
What part of racism, overkill, indiscrimate, total innilation am I missing?
I think what we have here is "GENOCIDE", American style.

By: Captain Nemo on 2/12/10 at 10:34

What frighten me the most about Iran is not that it would start sending missiles cross its borders; if it did there would more coming back across that border. I think it is more likely that it would sell bombs to al-Qaida.

By: gdiafante on 2/12/10 at 10:34

Me too. And I do think they may be overplaying their nuclear status...then again, it's not like I have faith in our intelligence community to know for sure.

By: dooley on 2/12/10 at 10:35

Are we discussing peace or piece ?

By: Blanketnazi2 on 2/12/10 at 10:36

i don't know about that, Nemo. Persians and Arabs don't really get along.

By: gdiafante on 2/12/10 at 10:36

Not even close, Darge. If that was our intent Tokyo would have been completely destroyed and we would have continued killing after they surrendered.

You can argue if we should have used them or if we were really posturing to Russia, but genocide? Give me a break.

By: bfra on 2/12/10 at 10:37

Article about these babies on AP yesterday. These tanks are awesome and mean business:

The Joker's driver, Sgt. Jeremy Kinsey, 23, from Sunny Side, Washington, even triggered a live IED during his Breacher's first combat outing in December. The 60-pound (27-kilogram) bomb exploded on his plow, powerful enough to rip out a tire or an axle from a normal armored vehicle.

The Breacher barely registered. "It shook slightly," Kinsey said. "I laughed and I drove on."

By: gdiafante on 2/12/10 at 10:38

Iran has already supplied weapons to various terrorist organizations, it isn't out of the realm of possibility that they would sell that technology to the highest bidder.

By: house_of_pain on 2/12/10 at 10:38

So, which one is bluffin' with their nuclear muffin?

By: dnewton on 2/12/10 at 10:38

: Captain Nemo on 2/12/10 at 4:32
Good morning

dnewton:

Please show the evidence of such accusations, as "Peaceniks have killed more people than nuclear weapons ever did."

The fact that you must be dragged to the obvious shows a great deal of ability to protect the illusion of moral superiority while at the same time promoting evil. Peaceniks dither and deny while a threat grows and gathers strength. In America alone, the problem starts with Quakers who failed to take a side, any side, during the American Revolution. They also stalled the construction of a navy, preferring to pay tribute to England and later to Mediterranean pirates. Skipping over other examples, How about Hitler? Nemo, You should surface once and a while and look through your periscope.

By: Captain Nemo on 2/12/10 at 10:41

By: Blanketnazi2 on 2/12/10 at 9:36
i don't know about that, Nemo. Persians and Arabs don't really get along.

The enemy of my enemy is my friend.

Never under estimate the stupidly of angry men.

By: gdiafante on 2/12/10 at 10:41

dnewton: dysentary killed more during the Revolutionary war than those who didn't take a side.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 2/12/10 at 10:41

well, you do have a good point there, Nemo.

By: MamaG on 2/12/10 at 10:43

(on your head) teehee!

By: sidneyames on 2/12/10 at 10:43

: gdiafante on 2/12/10 at 9:32
No Sid, they make you walk the entire 700 miles without rest. Then they kick you.

G, sometimes I'm looking for an intelligent answer. But thanks anyway for your input???

By: gdiafante on 2/12/10 at 10:43

I go by "the friend of my enemy is my friend but I'm keeping a close eye on him because we aren't that close and he may be a Red Wings fan".

By: Blanketnazi2 on 2/12/10 at 10:47

sometimes a silly question deserves a silly answer.

By: Captain Nemo on 2/12/10 at 10:48

By: Captain Nemo on 2/12/10 at 9:20
“Ours is a world of nuclear giants and ethical infants. We know more about war that we know about peace, more about killing that we know about living.” -Omar Bradley
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This is worth repeating, dnewton. I would consider Bradley knowing more of war than I.

By: dargent7 on 2/12/10 at 10:49

dooley: This close to Valentine's Day, when this board mentions the word, "piece" it's usually refering to "ass", for both the men and women posters.

By: sidneyames on 2/12/10 at 10:52

By: Blanketnazi2 on 2/12/10 at 9:47
sometimes a silly question deserves a silly answer

The only silly or dumb questions are the one's not asked. Parents tell their children this all the time.

I"ve never been on a 700 mile walk; can't imagine how it's done. Was just asking and expecting an intelligent answer. I over estimated some people on this board. Sorry for that.

BUT, again, my ACTUAL question was not about the "walking" but it was:
"Do they take donations for the cause or are they self-funded? "

If you don't know. Just say so. Don't try to belittle me and be off subject. It's not intelligent to do that.

By: sidneyames on 2/12/10 at 10:56

Iran supreme leader lauds state rally, warns West
By NASSER KARIMI Associated Press Writer The Associated Press
Friday, February 12, 2010 2:42 AM EST
Latest NewsTEHRAN, Iran (AP) — Iran's supreme leader praised the mass turnout at the government-backed rally marking the 1979 Islamic Revolution and warned the West to stop putting obstacles in his country's path, state Press TV reported Friday.
Ayatollah Ali Khamenei thanked the "tens of millions" across the country who celebrated Thursday's anniversary, saying the turnout at rallies reflected the nation's strength.

"government-backed rally" These are the only types of groups who can rally in Iran without fear of being murdered or imprisoned.

By: Captain Nemo on 2/12/10 at 10:57

He that will not reason is a bigot,
He that cannot reason is a fool,
He that dares not reason is a slave. -William Drummond

By: gdiafante on 2/12/10 at 10:57

Christ, Sid, it's a freakin' joke. You need to remove that stick from your ass.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 2/12/10 at 11:04

well then we'll make a point to talk to you like a child, since you've agreed you operate on that level, sid.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 2/12/10 at 11:04

now sit down and be quiet. the adults are talking.

By: sidneyames on 2/12/10 at 11:14

By: gdiafante on 2/12/10 at 9:57
Christ, Sid, it's a freakin' joke. You need to remove that stick from your ass.

It's hard to see the difference in your posts, G.

So calm down and don't get your BP or your NP up in a danger zone.

By: gdiafante on 2/12/10 at 11:20

Yeah, I thought the part about getting kicked would have been crystal clear, but for some you have to explain it...lol

By: bfra on 2/12/10 at 11:20

sid - I"ve never been on a 700 mile walk; can't imagine how it's done. Was just asking and expecting an intelligent answer. I over estimated some people on this board. Sorry for that.

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Imagine putting 1 foot infront of the other etc, for 700 miles. That is how it is done!

By: gdiafante on 2/12/10 at 11:21

brfa is correct. if you put one foot in front of the other, soon you'll be walking across the flo-o-or.

-Winter Warlock

By: Blanketnazi2 on 2/12/10 at 11:29

Last weekend, at the right-wing Constitutional Coalition’s annual conference in St. Louis, Joseph Farah, publisher of the far right WorldNetDaily, blasted Fox News for its relationship with Alwaleed. Farah noted correctly that Alwaleed had boasted in the past about forcing Fox News to change its content relating to its coverage of riots in Paris, and warned that such foreign ownership of American media is “really dangerous.”

http://thinkprogress.org/2010/02/10/right-rebels-foxnews/?

By: Blanketnazi2 on 2/12/10 at 11:29

FARAH: There’s a flaw, a real compromise in Fox that you need to understand. And if you care about national security, you especially need to be attentive to it. And that is that Fox News parent company is News Corp has a significant ownership by a Saudi prince that many of you will be familiar with because right after 9/11 this prince very famously offered Rudolph Giuliani a big multi-million dollar check to rebuild and Giuliani told him to stick the check where the sun don’t shine because this guy was basically blaming America for what happened on 9/11. Well this guy owns a very significant percentage of the News Corp and has let the world know that he can get things taken off Fox News when he finds them objectionable and has in the past. And I really believe this is really dangerous for America.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 2/12/10 at 11:31

“Saudi Arabia’s strategic alliance with the United States will continue and as a derivative of that, the link with the oil between oil and dollars is there. The bulk of our GDP, the bulk of budget comes from oil and oil is still a dollar based commodity.” As Media Matters has documented, Fox News is a reliable source of misinformation on clean energy, and has aggressively attacked efforts to move America away from a fossil fuel dependent economy.

By: gdiafante on 2/12/10 at 11:33

Interesting stuff Blanket...

By: Blanketnazi2 on 2/12/10 at 11:34

i know, isn't it???