Young's knee injury, demeanor still in question

Tuesday, September 9, 2008 at 1:12am
Vince Young was carted off the field after a knee injury during the Titans' win over Jacksonville. Mike Strasinger for The City Paper

With the status of Vince Young’s left knee still uncertain, Tennessee Titans coach Jeff Fisher's Monday press conference mostly centered around the appearance that his quarterback was reluctant to re-enter Sunday’s win over Jacksonville with 5:57 to play.

The severity of Young’s injury was still not known as of Monday afternoon, but the Titans, according to Fisher, said it did not appear to be a season-ending injury. The MRI on Young's knee was rescheduled for Tuesday, according to the team.

“If it was season-ending, we would have known last night,” Fisher said.

In Sunday's game, Fisher could be seen in an animated fashion gesturing for Young to join the rest of the offense on the field, just moments after he moped about throwing his second interception of the game.

Fisher indicated again Monday that the discussion he had with Young regarded tightness in the quarterback’s hamstring, and not any perceived unwillingness to take the field after pouting on the sidelines.

“As I mentioned yesterday, there was an issue with the hamstring tightness, and there was miscommunication,” Fisher said. “There is all kinds of communication that takes place on the sideline. I saw Vince sitting on the bench with a towel on his head. Obviously, he wasn’t happy with the interception, but that was not part of the issue.

“The issue was just the communication between myself, and he and the trainers and coaches, regarding whether his hamstring was tightening up or not.”

Young did not bother to notify the team’s medical personnel while on the sideline that his hamstring was any sort of issue, but Fisher said players are not necessarily required to consult with the medical staff on the sideline in such situations.

“Oftentimes, I talk to players, and he didn’t have a pull,” Fisher said. “He wasn’t injured. He was tight, and so we communicate. Mike [Heimerdinger] communicates with him. We communicate with him. If you’ve got an injury where a player is down on the field, he is being treated by the medical staff, of course. But we talk to players all the time about, ‘How do you feel?’”

Fisher said he had been in constant communication with Young during the game regarding updates on the hamstring tightness, but was not aware that it had become a potential issue until the offense took the field without the starting quarterback.

“We had discussed it throughout the game. How are you feeling? That’s part of what you do,” Fisher said.

The coach reiterated that Young was not trying to remove himself from the game.

“He did not pull himself. Let me explain something, I put him on the injury report on Friday because he had a tight hamstring,” Fisher said. “There’s a significant difference between a tight hamstring and a pull. He had hamstring tightness, and the discussion was related to the tightness, not a pull. If he would have pulled, I assure you and everybody else would have seen him being administered and examined by doctors and trainers.”

Fisher blamed Young’s absence from the field and his not knowing about the tightness on a communication breakdown. While Young was on the sideline, backup Kerry Collins, who entered the game four plays later after Young’s knee injury, was frantically warming up as if to go in and play.

“We’ve got to communicate better. I probably need to do a better job talking to Mike,” Fisher said. “I’m on the other side when the defense is out there. I’ve got a lot of responsibility that goes beyond just checking on the specific condition of everybody. Not that that was not important. But he came back on the field and he made plays, and unfortunately, he got hurt.”

Young’s demeanor was also an issue again on Monday, and though Fisher said he was more concerned about the quarterback’s knee, he admitted Young needs to mature in that area.

“Yes, he definitely needs to work through some things. There’s no doubt about that,” Fisher said. “It’s not the first time he’s been frustrated or he’s shown frustration outwardly on the sideline. He tends to bounce back. He was not happy after the first interception, and he clearly should not have thrown that ball. He made that decision. He understood it. He processed it, and he came back two series later and led us on a touchdown drive. He deals with it.”

Center Kevin Mawae indicated that while teammates have confidence in Young, it is ultimately up to Young himself to correct any issues with his demeanor or his self-confidence.

“I think Vince knows he has the backing of every guy on this team and every guy in the huddle and on the offense,” Mawae said. “But at some point in time, it’s got to come to that single individual person to know that he’s got a job to do just like everybody else.”

While Kerry Collins would start while Young is out, the Titans must examine their options for a backup if Young is out for an extended period of time. Practice squad quarterback Ingle Martin could be promoted, or they could look at a veteran like Chris Simms, Tim Rattay or Daunte Culpepper, all of whom remain unsigned.

CONCUSSION: Fisher said Monday he was unaware of comments by Albert Haynesworth that the defensive tackle did not remember much from Sunday’s 17-10 victory over Jacksonville, including the final score.

“I was not aware of those comments, but if it is related to the concussion, we do a thorough examination on the sideline and we would never allow him to come back on the field unless he passed the examination and tests,” Fisher said. “We have all kinds of information, backup information and a testing protocol that we use, so we would never do that.”

Haynesworth sat out much of the first and part of the second quarter before returning. He had two sacks in the game.

NEW NICKNAME?: Linebacker Keith Bulluck said he is ready to take on Bengals wide receiver Chad Johnson, who now goes by the name Ocho Cinco after legally changing his name.

Bulluck even had a new moniker for Johnson/Ocho Cinco.

“I like Oucho Cinco, I think he’s great,” Bulluck said. “He’s Oucho right now with that shoulder brace on the sidelines and he was looking real dejected yesterday. Baltimore took it to those guys. We’ll just see how that shoulder is. Tell him to get his shoulder right.

“He’s going to be on camera all day on Sunday, his shoulder, I don’t expect to run too many shallow crosses. I’m putting it out there for him to bite it, and I know he will.”

MORE INJURIES: Fisher said the Titans were doing tests on Jacob Ford’s sternum to determine the extent of his injuries.

RECEIVERS TO VISIT: The Titans will host receivers Glenn Martinez, Chad Jackson and Reche Caldwell among others on Tuesday for tryouts. The Titans have been looking to potentially upgrade the position since the off-season.

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By: cscoville on 12/31/69 at 7:00

I really hope that the Titans take Ingle Martin off the Practice Squad and start using him while Vince is recovering. It was great to see Ingle lead the offense so capably during the preseason, and I think he has tremendous talent that's being wasted. He's also proven himself to be a versatile weapon for the offense.

By: gdiafante on 12/31/69 at 7:00

Fisher is lying and Vince Young is a child.How'd Jay Cutler do last night?

By: HenryB on 12/31/69 at 7:00

Broncos whooped up on the Raiders, 41-14 -- and Cutler finished with 299 passing yards and two TDs. Have you heard yet that Fisher notified the cops last night that he couldn't find Young, who left is house without his cell phone? Fisher and Young ended up over at the Baptist Sports Center around midnight last night with Channel 2 asking what was going on.

By: frank brown on 12/31/69 at 7:00

Poor Ol Bud Adams. Can you imagine how he feels with all the front end money he paid Vince Young going down the drain. Ingle Martin should be given a chance to play along with Collins. Collins or Martin cannot get them to the Super Bowl but the weak schedule will allow the Titans to make to the playoffs.

By: Jokapsig on 12/31/69 at 7:00

The Titans have always had a very good team chemistry. If a player has fallen, due to injury or other reasons, the guys have ALWAYS been there for their own. That's called class. I saw that, as several players, including Albert reaching out to Vince as he walked to the rear of his class.

By: JohnnyLaw on 12/31/69 at 7:00

Let Martin play!I wonder if VY doesn't suffer from a degree of clinical depression. If so, this type of NFL pressure can overwhelm a person. He's definitely in a mental hole and needs to go back to #2 QB until he is the best between him and Collins.

By: NewYorker1 on 12/31/69 at 7:00

Wow! I can't believe these guys take these sports that serious. It's just a stupid game that has absolutely no real value in life. Please let me call Vince and tell him, sweetie it just a game. It's not like you are performing brain surgery on someone. You're throwing a ball and running around a field honey. It's not that important. At the end of the day, nobody really gives a damn.

By: blktenn on 12/31/69 at 7:00

The titians can do one thing and make people in middle Tn happy. Just Hire all WHITE PLAYERS. From Vandy and UT. The team will have no problems with cops and the titans alway find a way to pay those player any thing they ask for. May be just hire blacks to clean the locker rooms. NOW THAT WOULD MADE PEOPLE IN THE STATE HAPPY.

By: TITAN1 on 12/31/69 at 7:00

blktenn, you do know doing drugs is wrong? You might want to give them up.

By: NewYorker1 on 12/31/69 at 7:00

blktenn, I disagree because the locker room/shower scene will definitely come up short. LOL...

By: blktenn on 12/31/69 at 7:00

TITAN1.. " When a person types out loud, the feeling of many people, his words are rejected" The truth is the truth

By: blktenn on 12/31/69 at 7:00

NewYorker1 that's funny ???

By: excon on 12/31/69 at 7:00

TRADE HIM TO THE TEXANS. HE IS HOME SICK.

By: blktenn on 12/31/69 at 7:00

Come on people let's see how you really feel about VY !!!!

By: gdiafante on 12/31/69 at 7:00

Here's what I think: he's not a very good quarterback.Thanks.

By: blktenn on 12/31/69 at 7:00

gdiafante he does have a lot of work to do. An he needs to grow up for sure.

By: producer2 on 12/31/69 at 7:00

Frank,Bud was the one who want Vince so I am sure the money is secondary to him. Collins could lead us to the Super Bowl. do you remember Trent Dilfer, starting qb for the world champion Ravens? Not so good but capable and not turnover prone.

By: frogmild on 12/31/69 at 7:00

Just another pampered, over paid spoiled child trying to pass as an adult. It's not the knee its the attitude and the variety of stories being used to cover up the attitude.

By: frogmild on 12/31/69 at 7:00

Just another pampered, over paid spoiled child trying to pass as an adult. It's not the knee its the attitude and the variety of stories being used to cover up the attitude.

By: blktenn on 12/31/69 at 7:00

Someone call Jeff Fisher and tell him how to handel the guys. Get us a real QB on our team. VY would make a GREAT Janitor.

By: slacker on 12/31/69 at 7:00

They should reach out to Ole' Vince alright, and give him a pink slip.He cannot throw a forward pass consistently.

By: gdiafante on 12/31/69 at 7:00

He may make a good wide receiver, or return man.

By: NewYorker1 on 12/31/69 at 7:00

It's sad that someone who throws a ball for a living makes that type of salary and someone who teaches our youth makes very little money. Where are the priorities in this country? Football and basket ball coaches at the University of Tennessee makes more than professors teaching math and English. It amazes me and we wonder why the U.S. is ranked 24th in the world in terms of education.

By: slacker on 12/31/69 at 7:00

He would make a great wide receiver.

By: frogmild on 12/31/69 at 7:00

Just another pampered, over paid spoiled child trying to pass as an adult. It's not the knee its the attitude and the variety of stories being used to cover up the attitude.

By: OneTimer on 12/31/69 at 7:00

people here hate white QBs too. it's an equal opportunity hate when they suck.

By: Cowboy84 on 12/31/69 at 7:00

HB, I read that article too, Fisher called is a misunderstanding. Huh?You don't get the cops to help you search for someone over a misunderstanding.You get the cops involved when you are worried what a person is going to do or you have no idea where they are. Fisher must have been seriously worried about VY to get the police involved. He has to know all the tv and radio stations have scanners and sources, and that this would get out.

By: TITAN1 on 12/31/69 at 7:00

Alright, who opened the cage and let the idiots out? Good grief!

By: anxious on 12/31/69 at 7:00

(By: blktenn on 9/9/08 The titians can do one thing and make people in middle Tn happy. Just Hire all WHITE PLAYERS. From Vandy and UT. The team will have no problems with cops and the titans alway find a way to pay those player any thing they ask for. May be just hire blacks to clean the locker rooms. NOW THAT WOULD MADE PEOPLE IN THE STATE HAPPY.) WHAT A RIDICULOUS STATEMENT! I don't know what planet you've been living on, but it seems to me that arguably the most popular player in Titans history was Steve McNair whom, unless he has been to Michael Jackson's plastic surgeon, is still African American and a quarterback.

By: frank brown on 12/31/69 at 7:00

Titan1, Your post to BLKTENN about doing drugs is your masterpiece post. PRODUCER, Bud Adams begrudes any money that leaves his pocket. He thought that Vince Young was a bargain when he "demanded" that the Titans draft him. Little did he know!!!

By: slacker on 12/31/69 at 7:00

Yeah.. Titan1, get back in your cage.

By: Cowboy84 on 12/31/69 at 7:00

The midnight journey of VY is now front page stuff on ESPN.com, SI.com, FoxSports.com, I imagine it'll make most, if not all the national sports talk radio.

By: blktenn on 12/31/69 at 7:00

Damm A Space case.... Run VY Run !!!!"He then came to the practice facility, where it was determined that those initial concerns by his friends and family were unfounded and he returned home without incident," the Titans said.

By: blktenn on 12/31/69 at 7:00

See I told you. I'll get a white QB !!!! We need a thinking man

By: BigPapa on 12/31/69 at 7:00

So is he offically "done" in TN? How can any of his team mates possibly follow this "leader"?

By: blktenn on 12/31/69 at 7:00

WHAT A RIDICULOUS STATEMENT! Take a Poll !!!! Before Steve became wanted here, they talk of hanging him from trees!!!! Check 104.5 plasters show

By: TRHJR on 12/31/69 at 7:00

what a load of crap... V Y goes to visit some friends.. may be to the Kyrstal.. ride around get some fresh air.... and the drive bys... blows this crap up. But, now why are the Titans looking for a Q.B., Ingle ain`t bad... What a FIESTA !

By: anxious on 12/31/69 at 7:00

BLKTENN - The difference is that McNair stood up every week and took resposibility for his mistakes. Hell after he became a star he took responsibility for the whole teams mistakes and I never once saw him sitting on the sidelines pouting like a little girl who just lost a tee ball game.And by the way, using Plaster for a sports reference is like using George Bush to grade English papers..............

By: TITAN1 on 12/31/69 at 7:00

NCP, how much longer do we have to put up with blktenn's garbage?